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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (83516)	6/15/1999 1:25:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Ten - Re: "could you do an apples-to-apples comparison and tell us both the maximum and the typical power ratings for the AMD mobile K6-2P and the Intel mobile Pentium II, both at 400 MHz?" At 400 MHz, Intel's 0.18 micron DIXON is rated at 9.8 Watts MAXIMUM Power. At 400 MHz, AMD's standard 400 MHz K6-2 (not the P version - I don't yet have data for that) dissipates 22.7 watts MAXIMUM. Again, the AMD spec is for a standard 400 MHz K6-2 at 2.2 volts, but the power dissipation - 22.7 watts - is 2.3X times the Intel DIXON part. Paul

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (83516)	6/15/1999 2:48:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "Paul, could you do an apples-to-apples comparison and tell us both the maximum and the typical power ratings for the AMD mobile K6-2P and the Intel mobile Pentium II, both at 400 MHz?" It might also be noted that Intel's numbers include the L2 cache. EP

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (83516)	6/15/1999 11:45:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Tench, Re: Intels roadmap. I just Intels roadmap for 2H99 at toms hardware guide. Anyway whats the difference between a PIII coppermine and cascades. Apparently they are both having only 256Kb of on chip cache but cascades is replacing Xeon? Is cascades a different core? Or is it just a marketing gimmick? Regards, Kash

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (83516)	6/16/1999 3:33:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Ten - Re: "could you do an apples-to-apples comparison and tell us both the maximum and the typical power ratings for the AMD mobile K6-2P and the Intel mobile Pentium II, both at 400 MHz?" I just got the K6-2P Mobile Power Dissipation specs. AMD lists 16 watts as the MAXIMUM power dissipation - for 400, 380, 350 and 333 MHz ! Go figure ! Anyhow, AMD clearly made some process mods and/or major design mods to reduce the power from 22 watts down to 16 watts for the mobile version. This is still 5.2 watts HIGHER than the DIXON QS - which, as noted by Elmer, includes 256 KiloBytes of L2 cache on the DIXON QS chip, whereas the AMD Mobile K6-2 has no L2 cache - so system L2 cache power dissipation must be ADDED to the 16 watts for the K6-2. Paul