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To: Amy J who wrote (83756)	6/18/1999 10:46:00 AM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Amy, ... when Xeon came out (signalling Intels intentions in the highend market) it spells the end for all the other companies in the Workstation, Server, and Fault Tolerant markets. FYI, IBM is shipping machines (since May) based on 0.18 micron gate length chips, at 1.57 nanoseconds cycle time, which is 637 MHz. Throw in copper. These facts do not even begin to address the advanced system advantages that S390 has (I won't use the R acronym). The statement in italics above is complete and utter BS. For anyone dropping in, I am definitely pro-Intel, but I happen to know a little bit about what's happening in the computer world, and Xeon, and IA64 will cause maybe a 0.18 micron wide crack in big iron armor in the next few years. Tony

To: Amy J who wrote (83756)	6/21/1999 7:34:00 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Amy, Re: Tony's Big Iron Vision Msg#'s 83921 and 83799 Message 10188129 Message 10174737 When it come to Big Iron technical stuff, Tony (and John) really know his stuff - as he should - he's been working in that area for nearly 30 years (and John maybe even longer). Therein is the problem. The S390 is really a S360 from the 1960's only now it's much bigger, faster, and much more complex. CIO's have really had no alternative. They are (still) mostly a captive market. Some of the CIO's love it - like the Stockholm syndrome where the captives, after awhile, begin to love their captors. A lot of CIO's would love an alternative. Something architecturally more coherent, more modern, and comforming more to an open standard. As for cost effectiveness, Tony uses the bogus statistic that it cost less for S390 sys admin citing $2000 per seat versus $8000 per seat for Wintel. That is because most of Wintel networks (currently) have less than 100 seats and many (if not most) of the S390's serves thousands. But that will change. Mary