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To: pezz who wrote (53704)	6/19/1999 2:26:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

>I realize that in the strict sense of the word euthanasia does not imply "voluntary" But assisted suicide is a Positive development IMO. I am not aware of any non voluntary procedures going on in the Netherlands.< No doubt it will be to you. The matter is subtle here in the states. There is small but increasing pressure upon the elderly not to consume economic resources for healthcare. Even on this forum I have read Michelle vigorously complaining on this issue. I have read many accounts of doctors who when faced with sick elderly people will allow (or even help) them to expire rather than work to give them extra time. Last year I read of a report that revealed that in many hospitals this sort of thing is a dirty little secret. As pressure against the aged increases due to economics, and as suicide is federalised and inserted into our society, the message to old folk will be clear and powerful. This is how it is in the Netherlands. Folk are certainly being killed involuntarily, with little or no serious repercussions. And there exists a distinct cultural pressure upon the aged to leave the earth, rather than consume resources that otherwise might be consumed by the young. The value of human life is dropping, pezz, and the decline is sponsored by the same barbaric philosophy that drives abortion. >Without getting into your head on the subject of cloning Allow me to say that I would have myself "cloned " in a heartbeat if I could.< Cloning is such a lack of progress. >I can't see what that has to do with the discussion at hand. Or the moral implications for that matter.< Cloning experiments cause abortions, pezz. And if abortion barbarity is already accepted apart from cloning experiments, then it matters not at all should such experiments cause countless millions more abortions. You folks are now heaping abortion upon abortion upon this country, and you haven't the foggiest idea whether you are certainly not killing humans. By this barbaric principle, it matters not at all even should they somehow turn out to be human. So friggin' what? Moreover, as cloning technology “improves,” odd genetic combinations and hybrids will perhaps become possible. Should it be possible to create a human snake, then on what basis can anyone claim it unethical to actually do so? On none, because human life is already so cheapened by abortion barbarity that it can be tinkered with and exterminated purely on the basis of fiendish whim. >No need to talk about the Chinese.< There is every reason to talk about the Chinese. They are living proof, along with everyone else (you included), that humans do not have more respect for human life, but much less. No life is sacred, pezz. The “line” can be moved and indeed is moving, solely because of barbarity. >In this country a half a century ago abortion became the law of the land. We are the better off for it.< This is all news to me, including the time you have alleged abortion became legal in America.