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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (53723)	6/19/1999 4:04:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

No doubt it will be to you. The matter is subtle here in the states. There is small but increasing pressure upon the elderly not to consume economic resources for healthcare. Even on this forum I have read Michelle vigorously complaining on this issue. I don't want to go down this path with you on euthanasia. But let me point out that my entire issue with regards to medical expenditures for the elderly in their last two weeks of life has to do with expenditures, specifically, as they pertain to the $$ spent on children in the same circumstance. I believe the bottom line is the elderly feel that with the medicare system they are covered by an insurance system that is obligated to keep them alive. I have no problem with that - thats the way it should be as long as thats what they want too. But other people don't have that luxury... specifically children who certainly deserve to be taken care of as well as the elderly in our society. My sense is that if you have an 85 year old individual that needs a kidney transplant on medicare they will probably get it. Otoh if a crack baby needed that same procedure they would not. Something is terribly wrong with this system in my mind, since in both cases the individuals involved are not really paying - the taxpayers are. If I had my way we would abolish medicare and set up a separate medical welfare system that would cover all poor people. Like all insurance programs there would be guidelines as to what is covered and what is not - for all.

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (53723)	6/19/1999 8:13:00 PM
From: pezz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Assisted suicide.... I see no evidence of what you speak. Quite the contrary the medical profession loves the status quo. They are making huge fortunes keeping people alive and suffering. They are the ones fighting this movement.[ with small exceptions ] <<his is how it is in the Netherlands. Folk are certainly being killed involuntarily, with little or no serious repercussions.>> What evidence do you have to support this? << Should it be possible to create a human snake, then on what basis can anyone claim it unethical to actually do so? On none, because human life is already so cheapened by abortion>> Says you. You assume that you are correct in order to prove that you are correct. How interesting. The whole debate is whether or not human life is cheapened by aborting a fetus pez