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To: jbe who wrote (40758)	6/18/1999 7:28:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

You may come late, but you come well.

To: jbe who wrote (40758)	6/18/1999 9:13:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 108807

Good points, Joan.

To: jbe who wrote (40758)	6/18/1999 9:13:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

Joan, I think the best way to deal with your objections is to start with logical issues. I contend that the concept of God logically requires one to believe in a supernatural being -- one that is capable of suspending the laws of the universe through its own volition. On that basis I reject the pantheist view of God as being a cop-out. As soon as we say that God is everything and everywhere we lose the notion of the supernatural. God becomes one and the same with natural laws. My empiricist mind tells me that it is a tautology -- a mathematical equivalency, and thus devoid of any meaning other than giving the "believer" the comfort of being able to avoid being a total outcast in a religious environment. That's why I think that arguing that God is the hydrogen nucleus, as some have done, is tantamount to saying that God does not exist. I think it's simply a convenient short hand invented by timid atheists to avoid the issue. Put a simpler way, if we say that all x is y, and that all y is x we have established an equivalent nomenclature devoid of informational content. When we use God and the universe in place of x and y we imbue the equation with all manner of emotional content. TTFN, CTC