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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (6580)	6/19/1999 7:58:00 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82013

<<Gold certainly didn't provide that kind of return over the same period, did it??>> Then was then, next time may differ, move (using leverage) in XAU members, which provide inherent leverage in a POG move, was at the very least - interesting. btw, Did you ever provide any contract services to U.S.B., BT, or the executive branch of this government? You understand, everytime you cut a check for a higher gold options price, it helps your enemy(the gold bug)? You, I take it, are willing to let the end justify the means?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (6580)	6/19/1999 8:17:00 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82013

As you (at times) admit POG is manipulated, When would you be willing to bet on it? If Manipulation is so pervasive is there any way it could move higher?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (6580)	6/19/1999 8:38:00 PM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 82013

As always, these are NOT investment advice, just what I'm doing. <<Gold certainly didn't provide that kind of return over the same period, did it?? Look at Sept. through Nov. 98. 8 - 17& change with leverage not bad money: finance.yahoo.com or 8.75-14.50 finance.yahoo.com or 14 - 30 finance.yahoo.com Yes, took a small payday through there. Thank you. Guess that's why many of the "old experts" say everyone needs "just a little". For me, I'm (in the norm) a long term buyer and holder of quality companies at a value price - always averaging in or out. btw, Yes, I like the dividends, and many "bugs" are smelling blood in the water again.