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To: Machaon who wrote (12562)	6/21/1999 12:45:00 PM
From: Enigma	Respond to of 17770

One man's achievements are not another (thinking) man's obviously? Talking about confessionals - if you were responsible for all the death and destruction here - you'd never get out of the confessional! We're seeing lying on a grand scale by Nato - funny you should accuse someone else of the same thing - but then from your posts I can see that it's a case of the three monkeys with you. Do I need to translate? d

To: Machaon who wrote (12562)	6/21/1999 12:48:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 17770

Actually, the hackneyed diplomacy in Rambouillet and the bombing: - Drove the Serbs out of Kosovo. accelerated the Serbs drive against the KLA and to drive out Albanians from Kosovo. - Prevented genocide in Kosovo. accelerated the Serbs rounding up the KLA and KLA sympathizers. - Demonstrated the ethical and moral nature of NATO. the bombing of the military targets essentially failed, and NATO resorted to primarily bombing civilian targets. The turning point was the capitulation of Russian support. There was no moral or ethical victory since the Rambouillet accord was a sham and neither the Serbs or the KLA are moral victims. - Showed to the world the horrors of ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing is primarily a media buzzword to try to stir up public support which was never strong for this action. It was a terrorist war between two terrorist factions. - Showed to the world that military might could be used for good. There was no good in this war. - Provided food, water, shelter and medical care for hundreds of thousands. Only after blundering in diplomacy and blundering in military preparation even after being warned that mass deportations would occur if NATO bombed. Why weren't military plans made to intervene before the deportations and plans for facilities for refugees when the staging for bombing begun? - Stablized the Balkans by significantly damaging Serbia's war machine. The Balkans will only be as stable as the external force that is in place. - Enabling the refugees to go back home. After blundering in the staging for the bombing campaign. - Helping to rebuild Kosovo. After bombing due to blundering diplomacy.

To: Machaon who wrote (12562)	6/21/1999 8:57:00 PM
From: JBL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

<< ... and that almost 1/2 the Democrats and 2/3 of Independents and 2/3 of Republicans do not view this action as a victory..... >> This is nonsense. Didn't your mommy never tell you to lie? What do you gain from lying except to tarnish your already weak credibility. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans are giving Bill Clinton minimal credit for achieving the peaceful solution to the conflict in Kosovo, and are doubtful that the military action will serve to deter aggression in similar situations in the future. The U.S. public is also strongly skeptical about the possibility of peace in the region as long as Slobodan Milosevic remains in power. Bill Clinton last Thursday night declared the result of the military action to be a victory for the United States, but only 40% of Americans interviewed in a new Gallup/CNN/USA Today poll conducted this weekend agree with him. These results vary by partisanship, but not as much as might be expected. Fifty-four percent of Democrats say that the situation represents a victory, while only 34% of Republicans and 33% of Independents agree.