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To: The Philosopher who wrote (41357)6/21/1999 4:05:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
>Your position, then, must be<
Oh no not another one of these "he said, she said" dealies!
First off I started my post with a "maybe" so I'm not presenting a thesis so much as running an idea up the flagpole. As for the position you deduce from that careful phrasing, I see a coupla gaps. I don't see where you are making the transition from civilized *societies* to civilized *individuals*. Imho that is a polarizing sort of statement and it isn't helping the tenor of the debate much.
Bottom line is that my position *isn't* comparable to that in your reformulation. It's less radical.

Let's get the original topic back on track - i.e. Can we begin to expect a civilized, modern society to provide universal education?



To: The Philosopher who wrote (41357)6/21/1999 7:43:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 108807
 
Your position, then, must be that functionally literate persons are more civilized than non-functionally literate persons.

You miss the point. Mine, at least, and I suspect Edwarda's too. It is the responsibility of civilized people in a civilized to society to extend the benefits of civilization to the greatest possible number of those who share the society with us. We know we won't succeed completely. But refusing to make the attempt would violate our own beliefs. Certainly I'd think any good Christian, or any good atheist, would see the necessity of making the attempt. To speak of equality without trying at least to make it accessible to anyone willing to strive for it is, IMO, an act of hypocrisy.



To: The Philosopher who wrote (41357)6/22/1999 5:25:00 AM
From: Edwarda  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Your position, then, must be that functionally literate persons are more civilized than non-functionally literate persons.

Not must be, Chris, merely have a better chance to be.