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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41590)	6/22/1999 11:46:00 PM
From: jpmac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"I have the right to the pursuit of happiness. Kiss off." The beginning of civilization for more the few. And pursuit, as the getting is a wild-card. But, by gosh, I can and will pursue it. Keep your shackles. What an amazing turn of the world.

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41590)	6/22/1999 11:49:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

There will obviously be calculations of cost and benefit. The terms of these calculations change as societies grow more civilized. Not long ago ruling classes in most countries made conscious efforts to deny education to the masses, knowing that it would make them harder to dominate. Now it is generally recognized that attempts to make the masses productive and give them the ability to raise their standards of living ultimately generate more wealth for all. Could one say that a civilized society calculates these costs and benefits as cost and benefit to the society, rather than to the individual members of the ruling class?

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41590)	6/23/1999 12:32:00 AM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Suffering and death are not rights. Also, there is no such thing as a "right" to any level of education, nor for that matter a "right" to health care. Real rights end where the violation of other's rights begins. FT

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41590)	6/23/1999 3:19:00 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

I think we are living in a marvelous, hopeful age, in which everyone will soon have basic human rights (as provided for in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the European Charter and the US Constitution (as Amended.) When I was a kid, Japanese slaughtered Chinese in Nanjing and elsewhere (my cousin in the U.S. Navy, wounded on the Panay, told me all about it.) Hitler killed and imprisoned Jews and took over Austria. My uncle who was there told me all about it. I knew I would have to fight to defend America -- as rotten as it was -- black people starving and lynched. Professors fired for promoting Negro rights. Black people dying of syphilis while the USPHS studied them (I didn't know about that). I wanted to change it into a freer more decent society, but what could a kid do but learn to shoot and march and invent poison gas machines (my handy pocket phosgene generator won a science fair.) Well, all that is over now. The Japanese are coming right along. The Europeans (especially the Germans) guarantee basic human rights. One-time Christian nations fight to protect Muslims from oppression by other one-time Christian and Muslim nations. Someday, soon, I hope Chinese will get some human rights. I can die in peace hoping that soon everyone can be free, a wish I share with Lincoln. At least my grandchildren don't need to plan to fight all of their lives as I had to expect.