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To: Ilaine who wrote (29812)	6/24/1999 12:26:00 PM
From: DScottD	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

I responded to Freddie's post about reading about English history and then came across your post regarding Churchill's History and see that we share the same opinion about his writing. I can't say that I ever adored him, but I admire him a great deal and get a good laugh every time I hear or read the story about him and Lady Astor. The one where she says to him,"You sir are very drunk." And Churchill replies, "Yes I am. But you ma'am are very ugly. And I'll be sober in the morning but you will still be ugly." He gave his Iron Curtain speech at Westminster College, which is up the road a bit from where I live.

To: Ilaine who wrote (29812)	6/25/1999 1:06:00 AM
From: JF Quinnelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Yeah, Churchill even introduced "Iron Curtain" to the language in a famous speech he gave in Missouri in... 1947? Of course, Stalin had already been trashing the West for an entire year in his speeches, if anyone wants to go back and look. The mistake that the English made in their return to gold after WWI was attempting to restore "parity", returning the Pound to its pre-War valuation, instead of simply pegging the Pound to gold at the then prevailing market rate; the result was a profound deflation for the Pound. The US experienced a similar phenomenon after the War between the States as it sought to restore the gold standard. The British weren't alone in siding with the White Russians in 1919; Wilson sent American troops into Russia as well, I think up by Arkangel.

To: Ilaine who wrote (29812)	6/25/1999 11:18:00 AM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

He [Churchill] did know just what was what with the Communists, but no one would listen to him... Actually, Blue, everybody listened to Churchill after his Iron Curtain Speech -- and acted accordingly. British conservatives of the Churchillian stamp & class had always been exceedingly anti-Communist (and often anti-Semitic as well). That was one of the reasons they were initially reluctant to move against Hitler: they regarded the anti-Communist Hitler as a "bulwark" against the (supposedly Jewish) Threat from the East...That of course did not prevent Churchill from being a great wartime leader of the effort against the Nazis. (Edit: Or from "handing over" all that territory to Stalin at Yalta.) Joan