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To: jpmac who wrote (30001)	6/25/1999 9:43:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

Sorry, sorry, sorry! I didn't say it right. I don't mean they killed themselves because they were self-centered. I mean, they were different from other sad, confused, even insane people I've known, I think, in that they were self-centered. But the opposite is self-transcendent! Able to see that there is something valuable outside one's own skin! And wanting to be there for that. Even if it hurt. Lots of self-centered people never kill themselves. I've wished death on countless self-centered yuppie scum on the Beltway that I am sure will live to their eighties and die with many grandchildren all gathered around them. My husband and one of my good friends are children of suicides, and I cannot understand how anyone could kill themselves and leave children with that burden. That is the worst. But the others left spouses, or parents, or friends. It is such a terrible thing to do. It is unforgiveable, IMHO. To someone who contemplates suicide, I would ask, if your life is so unbearable, leave it. Get up, take every penny you have, go to another town, and start over. Fuck 'em all. Just don't kill yourself. I know that sounds cheap and easy. I am not a trained psychologist or psychiatrist. Sorry.

To: jpmac who wrote (30001)	6/26/1999 11:13:00 AM
From: melinda abplanalp	Respond to of 71178

Taht was a good post. A couple of times I have been so down...like a spiral...that I couldn't see how I could every see day light again. Happened in high school when my 4 year boyfriend went to college and dumped me and happened when I got into another relationship in my 30's with a sociopath. Those events sort of shattered my happily ever after hopes...brought me to the real world. The high school experience was the worst. Every so often I think about those days and I get scared now. I really liked your post!!!