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To: Rambi who wrote (30274)	6/28/1999 3:57:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Respond to of 71178

>all our Science and Technology have made religion old-fashioned and faith an almost impossible concept?< That is imho one of the overreaching ideas of Science-as-myth. Overreaching as in "one step too far". And that is why I think the heyday of Science as myth is already over, displaced by more "holistic" concepts of humanity's place on this planet. "Rocket scientist" isn't the superlative it was even twenty years ago.

To: Rambi who wrote (30274)	6/28/1999 6:37:00 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

There is a difference between the material world and the spiritual world. And I believe it has a lot to do with religion, but not necessarily completely. For instance, can you measure loyalty, or love? So these are spiritual issues. Can you measure the joy someone feels when hearing music? Can you measure the effect music will have on a person? Well, you could hook up an oscilloscope to a Bach recording, but would the oscilloscope be able to tell you the difference between the music and a bunch of rocks rolling down the side of a house? Probably not, so there is a spiritual side to human beings, and I believe it is what separates us from animals. Michael

To: Rambi who wrote (30274)	6/29/1999 2:08:00 AM
From: JF Quinnelly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

And isn't the reason we are exploring these philosophies because the Age of Reason, all our Science and Technology have made religion old-fashioned and faith an almost impossible concept? I ought to send you one of Jaki's books. Kepler, Copernicus, the Bacons, Newton, Maxwell, Heisenberg, all these backward dopes and many others failed to see Christianity as an impediment to their scientific work. It's a conceit that simply doesn't stand up to examination, either historical or epistemological. But I guess if repetition makes something true, then true it must be.