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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (54931)6/30/1999 2:47:00 PM
From: miraje  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Dang, shoot, golly, gee whiz! Three of your number three novels are my top three. Who da thunk it (shaking my head)?? Just when you think you've got someone stereotyped.... <VBG>



To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (54931)6/30/1999 3:08:00 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 67261
 
Thanks, although it was my father- in- law. He was a good fellow, though. He was on Eisenhower's staff throughout the War, eventually as the chief clerk...

...Our tastes in rock run, at least in part, along similar lines. Among those albums that might show up on a best album list (in a non- committal order):"Close to the Edge", "Blue", "The Man Who Sold the World" (David Bowie), "Abbey Road", "American Beauty", "After the Gold Rush" (Neil Young), "Bookends", "Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits II", "Stop Making Sense" (Talking Heads), "Talking Book" (Stevie Wonder). This will give a flavor of my eclecticism. I am not sure if I would agree about Clapton, but he is not as "sizzling" as Hendrix. I just got a compilation album of Steely Dan. I appreciate even more the influence of "cool jazz" (a la Brubeck) on the group...

...Apart from Steely Dan, Blood, Sweat, and Tears and Chicago were good fusion groups. More on the jazz side was Chick Corea...

...I do not share your enthusiasm for Mahler, but I am willing to re- evaluate (it has been awhile). I agree that Copeland is, in the end, very good. I like Schoenberg, Webern, and, among Americans, Carter, and wish I had more time to spend separating wheat from chaff in modern music. I am very fond of Palestrina and earlier music. My favorite opera, musically, is "The Magic Flute". The overture may very well be Mozart's greatest piece. I remain very fond of Beethoven's Ninth, which is the best symphony ever written....

...I listen to some be- bop on occasion, but I am impatient with jamming. On the other hand, I liked Eastwood's "Bird" very much (I also like Forrest Whittaker a lot), and I loved Tavernier's "Round Midnight", with Dexter Gordon. No fear about Kenny G....

...There are two big tests on the modern art question:a.) How do you respond to Les Demoiselle D'Avignon?, and b.) Do you "get" pure abstraction?, particularly, I would say, Jackson Pollock. If these are problems, you are still a bit tentative on modern art. If you embrace them, you are, at least, oriented...

...See how hard it is to compose lists? I suppose that, if one took the time, one could come up with something, but how confident can one be of the rankings, especially if it has been awhile since reading the book? Your list is pretty good, although I do not share your enthusiasm for either Rand or Hemingway. Still, I understand that they have a certain power to convey a heroic view of life, one in a romantic mode, and the other in a stoic way. A couple on the list, such as "I, Claudius", I never got around to reading, so I cannot tell. I think it is interesting that you put on "Lord of the Flies", which is very good....

...Yes, it is exhilarating to think of these things. I remember the scene in "Manhattan" where Woody tries to think of reasons to live, and lists various pieces of music and books that have meant something to him primarily...



To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (54931)6/30/1999 7:23:00 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Reading your post has made me want to check out Mahler. Beethoven built edifices, now you're telling me Mahler made mountains! What little of him I have caught in passing must not have registered. Your references to Yes and King Crimson gave me deja vu all over again. I'm OK, I'm coming out of the flashback now. I agree that jazz applies to too many different sounds. Lotta folks think Kenny G is jazz?! For complexity and arrangements it doesn't get better than Ellington does it? He is to jazz what Shakespeare is to literature. My favorite Duke era is the 50s thru the early 70s. Yeah, I know, some of that stuff sounds like the theme to the Mod Squad, but some of those tunes on records like Up in Duke's Workshop or In the Uncommon Market are either really smokin' or so hauntingly mellow it just knocks your socks off. His best recording? What about the live album recorded at the Carrollton Dance Hall? Of course, Newport is right up there, but I think Carrollton edges it out.

As far as books go, I'm afraid I'm not as well read as you are. Certain books may not be great writing but may have a lasting impact. (I'm thinking of Rand here.) She certainly had an impact on me. I like Steinbeck too. I spent a summer a few years ago reading nothing but Steinbeck. I had just discovered him and went on a tear devouring his novels. The characters he created in Cannery Row and Tortilla Flat always stay with you. I must admit I wanted to cut my throat after reading To a God Unknown, though. Not too many people who are alive are writing great novels, are they? Cormac McCarthy has written some great stuff, I hope his best work isn't behind him. He threw everything he had in that recently completed trilogy. Well, take care, time to feed the dogs. Yours, Charles