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To: Jamey who wrote (25975)	7/5/1999 9:23:00 PM
From: hal jordan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

I disagree with you Brightstar. You wrote: >Emile is trying to say that the people that claim to be Jews are not really Jews in the guidelines that the Lord says who is a Jew.< If that was all Vidrine ever stated, I would not have a real problem here. However, you have not seen the years worth of racist messages he has posted. Or have you?! At least 75% of Vidrine's posts are regarding Jews. Does he talk in shining terms about Christianity - no. He spends most of his time posting hate-filled rhetoric meant to stir up the kind of people white supremacists seek out. Each and every post on Jews is completely negative, to the point of outright anti-semitism and race hatred. Lets see now, have you seen the post he copied from a White Supremacist/Nazi web site about Jewish control of America? Or his posts denying how many millions were murdered during the Holocaust? Or how Judasim was the Synagogue of Satan? Shall I go on, or do you get the picture? What outright hate propaganda will he bring up next, the Elders of Zion or Jews drinking the blood of Christian babies. You can basically take all his posts concerning religions other than Christianity (let alone certain denominations within Christianity) , place them on a Nazi website, and see the same material the Nazi's use. It is utterly revolting. Sorry Brightstar, hatred based on race/religion/color is never valid. Did that SOB who went on a killing spree in the midwest have the same viewpoint as Vidrine. Sure, except he acted out the insane propaganda of hatred that was placed in his head. And what kind of people put that type of propaganda into his young head--well, the same type of messages I am railing against. Freedom of speech in the form of hate-filled propaganda does have a price, and we are unfortunately witnessing that price in the midwest right now. Hal

To: Jamey who wrote (25975)	7/5/1999 9:36:00 PM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Brightstar, Yours and Emile's understanding of what constitutes a Jew is only valid, ironically enough, if one believes in Christianity. There are many Judaic scholars all over the world that would vehemently dispute your interpretation.(that doesn't necessarily make either side right) It is the way and the methods that Emile uses that incite hatred and division between peoples. It is those results of his philosophy that lead to a climate that causes the type of hate crimes we saw last weekend. For what it's worth, some of those shootings occurred in the neighborhood I grew up in. Mark

To: Jamey who wrote (25975)	7/5/1999 9:44:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

I also wanted to share this tidbit. Israel has the most lax abortion laws and the highest abortion rate per capita of any other nation. They are the ones that condemn the Holocost yet murder their own children. Wow. I had no idea. Is this right?

To: Jamey who wrote (25975)	7/5/1999 10:56:00 PM
From: Robert E. Hall	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Greetings Brightstar, and all who love the Lord Jesus Christ, An excellent response and true to the integrity of the Word of God. May God continue to show you His treasures in His Word as you honour Him. Grace and peace be unto you and the Israel of God, the Church. Robert

To: Jamey who wrote (25975)	7/6/1999 1:09:00 AM
From: Barnabus	Respond to of 39621

Happy Post Independence Day. Defending Emile Brings a smile His way His say Has too much bile OMB

To: Jamey who wrote (25975)	7/6/1999 1:23:00 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

This is a depressing post to read. Perhaps anti-Jewish prejudice, antisemitism, Judehhas, or whatever term you want to use, is endemic in Christianity. First a few historical facts. During the Jewish War of 67-70AD, the Romans put down a rebellion, burned the Temple in Jerusalem, and killed and enslaved a lot of Jews. They did not wipe Judaism practically off the face of the earth. There were plenty of survivors of all beliefs. They did not expel Jews from Palestine. About 50 years later, there was another Jewish rebellion in Judea, which was also crushed. There was another big rebellion later, but the hostilities mostly occurred outside of Palestine. Regarding the special immorality of first century Jews, I know of no reason to believe this. I haven't noticed the proof that modern messianic Jews don't consider themselves Christians but instead "want to remain separate". Could you please cite where you've seen this? BTW even if they "want to remain separate" ethnic churches aren't unique to messianic Jews. Ever hear of the Greek Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, and etc? Do they also not consider themselves part of the Christian church? Emile is a bigot through and through. Because he gives lip service to Christianity and posts piously from time to time, he is apparently able to win over a few disciples like yourself. That is a shame! Emile would be proud of that little Israeli abortion tidbit you threw in. Bruce