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To: MikeM54321 who wrote (6744)	7/7/1999 12:07:00 AM
From: Hardly B. Solipsist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9068

> Appreciate all you've done to educate me/others on the > Java/HTML thin client solution. And your browser comment > certainly is factual. I still can't wait to see how Microsoft > is going to deal with that aspect. Something always seems to > crop up that I never dreamed of before and may reshape the > entire thin client paradigm. That's always possible, but I think that the browser model has a lot of flexibility and potential for growth, so I don't see it being displaced. MSFT is betting on this model, too, but they have the resources to have projects on everything. For some time MSFT has just followed the pack, and I suspect that they will do so in enterprise apps, where they are really not yet much of a power. (However, they have the resources and the will, so I'd be astonished if they don't become one.) > I understand what you said and I'm not 100% sure myself if a > mouse movement is relayed back to the server via the Citrix > model. I feel fairly confident it's not. Only mouse clicks > are from what I recall. That makes sense. It is certainly not necessary to track the mouse unless your application wants to highlight text when the mouse passes over it (or something similar). And you could always have that level of redisplay managed by the client at the expense of complicating the client... > On the same subject, can you tell Lucius and I, if the same > model(Java/HTML) Larry Ellison is proposing for his RDBMS > databases, can be adopted to deploy Microsoft Office type > programs? Of course, I don't mean Microsoft specifically, but > can a word processing app be written by a third party that > would essentially function the same way that apparently > Oracle's 8i program does? Sure, although if it is only going to run in something like the Netscape browswer, there is a limit to how fancy the editor could be. For example, you couldn't (as far as I know) do something like flash the matching "open paren" when you typed a "close paren", or highlight text when the mouse passed over it, or anything like that. But you could certainly take text that was typed in and format it. In general I don't see much of a market for chasing things that MS Office already does, since those things are very cheap and unless you are a glutton for punishment you don't need to upgrade them very often. > I've listened to LE speak about his thin client model, but he > never seems to address this specific aspect (or I didn't > understand him). But of course he is selling databases and > that is what he sticks to when speaking about his vision of > the thin client world. Thanks, MikeM(From Florida) These just aren't the kind of applications he cares about, assuming that I understand your question. What he cares about are things like applications to let doctor's offices fill out insurance forms on the net, to let insurance companies and hospitals trade information electronically, and let doctors browse patient records, etc. There is a lot more money in that that in trying to sell MS Word sorts of applications... > PS Back a few posts you can find a most interesting article > that Lucius found that basically ends up saying that the > Java/HTML vision will ultimately(they say 2002 but I think > that is highly unlikely) win the thin client battle. Here's a > direct link to the article: > networkcomputing.com When you say unlikely, do you mean that it's unlikely to take that long? I'd say it's really over. It's really up to Java/HTML/XML to lose the war, and that will be hard.