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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (36943)	7/10/1999 12:28:00 PM
From: Baba 2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116768

Ron, I personally don't give a rat's ass how Mr. Murphy spends my "donation". It's money that I have given to a cause. If nothing more happens from here on out. Mr. Murphy's efforts have been successful. But Mr. Murphy is just getting started. He knows there's a long way to go and he will see it through to the end. AS for you sir, now that his efforts are being acknowledged and he is gaining respect, I see you attacking the messenger. Why doesn't this surprise me. It is an action of a desperate individual with a desparate cause. Some day the truth will be revealed. I sure hope your around to defend your position then....

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (36943)	7/10/1999 7:56:00 PM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116768

<<you're not even concerned about how he is spending your donations.>> Not in the slightest, I'm a believer in free markets, and though I'm far less invested in gold now than I was, every person living in the "free world" is invested in one way or another in Bill's efforts! Way I'm figuring it, if GATA were counting Bill's travel costs(after subtracting his own sizeable donation of money) he'd be hard pressed realize $.02 a day.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (36943)	7/10/1999 8:39:00 PM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116768

Ron, new word to discribe you: demagogue demagogue - to obtain a following thru means of appeals to emotions and prejudices, with a focus on fear, mistrust, worry, helplessness... See Ron, in a past post I quietly asked a question, .... which books does Ron accept as the truth ? .... why does Ron select these ideas ? .... what reaction does Ron wish to create in readers of his posts ? see Ron, its easy what you have done has happened throughout history over and over with much success don't explain why the other side is wrong just tell people that doom and gloom will happen if other side prevails so follow Ron not Ron ideas, as he has none just a threat Ron has to you if you do not follow him(Ron Reese) In a prior post I said this about Ron. <<Ron is much more dangerous than a bad person wanting to destroy and hurt others, as Ron believes he is correct and good will happen only under his views being inacted as rules or the law of the land.>> <<... if ... and Ron were in charge of a group of people, and they put into key positions of the courts and police only those who would obey them without question, then would you feel it safe and ok to voice out loud an opinion contrary to theirs ? ... everyone watched over so nothing "bad" happens.>>

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (36943)	7/11/1999 7:47:00 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 116768

Minister: Crisis Threatens Russian Energy Supply MOSCOW, Jul 9, 1999 -- (Reuters) The crisis in Russia's energy sector caused by tax and price policies, non-payment, and weak government regulation is so severe that energy supplies to the population are at risk, the Energy Minister said on Friday. "If the current macroeconomic conditions remain, the energy supply to the country could be placed under threat and export deliveries will have to be sharply cut," Viktor Kalyuzhny told a congress of the Union of Oil and Gas Industries. "Unless a range of measures is taken to normalise the financial position and the creation of essential investment resources in oil production and refining... then output by 2005 could fall to around 200-250 million tonnes per year," he said. Russia produced 303.3 million tonnes (6.09 million barrels per day) of crude oil and gas condensate last year, Fuel and Energy Ministry data showed. The situation was just as bad in the gas sector, he added, saying that gas output of 571 billion cubic meters (bcm) in 1997 was the lowest in 10 years. Although this rose by 20 bcm in 1998, he said, the position of the gas sector remained unstable. "Massive non-payment has led to a reduction of capital investment in the sector by more than half," he said, adding that several vital projects including compressor stations and trunk pipelines had fallen victim to the lack of cash. He added that demand for Russian gas was forecast at up to 680 bcm by 2005, or 15 percent higher than in 1998. "To secure such a growth in production it is essential to intensify investment in the gas industry...But the current financial position of (gas monopoly) Gazprom does not allow it to decide on this without extra measures being taken," he said. Unless radical steps were taken, Kalyuzhny warned that investment in Gazprom would fall to half of what was required, so that production in 2005 could fall to 450 to 480 bcm, some 200 bcm less than forecast demand. If priority were given to supplying the domestic market, "then it would be necessary to stop practically all exports of gas, and 25 percent of the country's hard currency revenues would be lost, not to mention the loss of the foreign market for Russian gas in the future." ((c) 1999 Reuters)