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To: Grainne who wrote (44778)7/10/1999 9:37:00 PM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Here's the bottom line: individuals should be left alone and the government should not try to legislate morality. (I am talking about adults, of course, not children.)

Prostitution, liquor, drugs, gambling, sex partners, marriage partners, how many marriage partners, contract marriages which last a certain time span and then may or may not be renewed, etc. -- all should be the province of individual choices, not busybodies', the State's, or individuals who have a different set of standards than other individuals.

FT



To: Grainne who wrote (44778)7/10/1999 9:50:00 PM
From: jbe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Frankly, Christine, the people who "shared beds" were, for the most part, working people who worked VERY long days, and often nights...I think most of them were probably too tired to do anything but sleep...People would fall in heaps, fully clothed, and start snoring away. Not a very inviting sight, I would imagine. Of course, kids got used to seeing the sexual act (although it was probably pretty short & furtive, generally speaking).



To: Grainne who wrote (44778)7/12/1999 9:59:00 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
Almost certainly there was plenty of experimentation and chance contact. I can report that little children sharing beds -- both girls and boys -- was very common in the country when I was a kid. In an ice-cold room with a featherbed and quilts the kids hugged each other regardless of sex. We wore pajamas and socks, but there was some good hugging going on, and I always preferred particular cousins and friends to other ones. Summer sleeping was something else. Skimpy clothes, screen porches, no lights, pillow fights, tussling, -- lots of fun. I can't recall active sex, but can only speak for myself.
With teenaged boys there seemed to be an awful of lot of minor sex. No one thought anything much about a couple of boys being special friends, bunking together, being teased. Who knows how far things actually went. On all of the workgangs in lumbering and pipeline maintenance I worked on, we always shared beds in hotels, two to a room. I am sure there was a lot of homosexual sex because I had to kick and push off approaches three times at least. One gang I worked with were all football players from the same team, and both of the guys I shared a bed with used the same mode of atttack.
I think we were a tired as any people could be after work. But as one guy told me, sex was the perfect way to recover from a hard day's work. I succeeded in not sharing a bed with him.
I still think that there are only a small percentage of active male homosexuals at any time (3-5%). Few of them have been heavily punished for incomplete assaults, so there is little risk. As long as they stayed away from kids, they rarely got assassinated or imprisoned. Of all the historical figures one can remember that were gay, there were few who got punished -- Walt Whitman, Sodoma, Edward II, Piers Gaveston, and, who else?