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To: Grainne who wrote (44813)	7/10/1999 11:35:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Well, Christine, I submit that strong drink and sex don't mix too well. <g>

To: Grainne who wrote (44813)	7/11/1999 12:23:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 108807

Chaucer isn't the only example: have you read The Decameron? Sex and humour, in abundance. In many parts of the rural Philippines it is considered completely normal for teenaged boys to experiment with group masturbation and other forms of sexuality that we would consider homosexually oriented. Boys are always in close contact, and have very little public opportunity to approach each other. They do manage it, though, despite the strong Catholic influence. I would guess that the bride is already pregnant in well over half the rural marriages here, and they often marry very young. I don't think hard work, or smells, were very much an impediment to either homesexual or heterosexual activity. I do think the idea that sexual license was invented in the '60's is pretty absurd.

To: Grainne who wrote (44813)	7/11/1999 1:30:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

More on: Culture & Puritanism, as well as on Strong Drink and...that other thing...<g> Christine, the colonial Americans who, you say, started drinking at breakfast were, for the most part, Puritans. And since you link strong drink & sex, what do you mean when you say that "we live in a very puritanical culture"? That we start drinking at breakfast? <gg> Somehow, I smell Margaret Mead here (although I could, of course, be wrong). Have you read any of Derek Freeman's exposes of Mead's Coming of Age in Samoa, most specifically his latest book (published Dec. 1998): The Fateful Hoaxing of Margaret Mead : A Historical Analysis of Her Samoan Research? I will confess I have not, but I gather Freeman does a thorough job in demolishing the myth of a Samoan Eden where the young romp through a guilt-free (and non-puritanical, of course) heavy-sex adolescence. (Ah, well! Hope springs eternal!) As for Strong Drink and Sex. In certain societies, the link appears to have been an inverse one. That was definitely true in Russian peasant society, for example, and to a certain extent, still is. The guys would go get drunk in the local tavern, and then come home and -- beat their wives. Interestingly, the words for "you-know-what" and "beat" are very close together, derived from the same root. (The same, I gather, is true of French.) He "performs the act": "yebyot." He beats: "byot." Interesting connection, especially in view of the well-known Russian peasant saying: "Ne byot, znachit ne lyubit." If he doesn't beat [his wife], it means he doesn't love [her]. I don't know whether the same thing was true of Irish society, to take another example. But it is often said that in Ireland drink (the "good man's failing") was used as a substitute for sex. Joan