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To: jbe who wrote (45722)	7/15/1999 3:02:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Leni Riefenstahl: Olympiad 1936.

To: jbe who wrote (45722)	7/15/1999 3:40:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

>For that matter, can anyone think of any good expository prose produced by Nazi writers?< Mein Krampf?

To: jbe who wrote (45722)	7/15/1999 3:55:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Some people would argue that the virtues of its style can be separated from the vices of its content. It's not an argument that I would make, though. Why not? Can't you imagine yourself saying "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it, and I may admire your style if you say it beautifully while still loathing the what you said"?

To: jbe who wrote (45722)	7/16/1999 6:09:00 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

I think many critics agree that Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" is amusing and well written (although it is abouyt ten times too long for the joke) but its contents are simply disgusting. I think "Der Fuehrer's Face" (Walt Disney-Spike Jones) which I have posted before, is (was) hilarious, but truthfully represents the Nazi philosophy.

To: jbe who wrote (45722)	7/16/1999 6:24:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

"Some people would argue that the virtues of its style can be separated from the vices of its content. It's not an argument that I would make, though." You are wise to restrict this position to prose. In poetry, the ability of the poet to sing disgusting or hateful ideas in beautiful and unforgettable ways sometimes overcomes the moral judgment of the reader or listener. "The Song of Solomon" hardly belongs in a religious book. Kipling's "Recessional" and other chauvinistic, imperialistic verse are impossible for a lover of poetry to resist. The list goes on. "Die Wacht am Rhein", "Marseillaise", .. "Dixie". My favorite of this patriotic trash is "Good Old Rebel."