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To: Cirruslvr who wrote (65914)	7/18/1999 12:28:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (9) \| Respond to of 1575980

Cirrus, The following comment been brought to my attention by one of my colleagues: "From the Speigel/Sanders interview: Sanders: We rely on the intelligence of the customer. We'll demonstrate with performance tests that the Athlon offers more for the money. By the way, business customers take a different approach anyway. They don't care about Intel's dancing clean room apes. I take offense to this kind of fab tech bashing. Apes?? Throw this into your SI forum. " His comment may have ostensibly been directed at Intel's marketing effort, but we choose not to take it that way, and will take offense at being referred to as Apes. We feel the dancing cleanroom people in the ads was Intel's way of paying tribute to its many talented and gifted fab personnel. We feel that Sanders comment displays his envy of Intel's manufacturing success, and may be a tacit comment of his own "Clean Room Apes" performance, which is also offensive by nature to fab workers. We will extract our revenge for the offense where it counts; in the fab. Stay tuned for future developments. PB

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (65914)	7/18/1999 1:46:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575980

Cirruslver, <Single Athlon FASTER than DUAL PIII in Quake 3, that is.> Thanks for posting. It will be interesting to see if Intel longs are going to believe this stuff as much as they believed the first K7 review from Thresh. Chuck

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (65914)	7/19/1999 12:44:00 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575980

<Single Athlon FASTER than DUAL PIII> Look again at the benchmarks, Cirrus: firingsquad.com firingsquad.com firingsquad.com Quake III does seem to take advantage of dual processor systems, but the improvement ranges somewhere between 4% and 21%. The worst-case scenario is, of course, a Celeron at high frequencies because its 128K L2 cache just doesn't scale well in multiprocessor environments. The best-case scenario is, of course, a Pentium III, which is better in multiprocessing. And this is only for the low 640x480 resolution. As you go to higher resolutions, the second processor becomes more and more useless, up to the point where the TNT2 Ultra card becomes the limiting factor. Yes, a single Athlon beating a dual Pentium III system is news indeed, at least for Quake III. But a second processor never bought that much more Quake III performance anyway compared to single-processor systems. This isn't servers we're talking about. Quake III is much like a workstation-like application. And as I suspected in the past, Athlon should do especially well in the graphics workstation niche, where FPU power is key. Tenchusatsu