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To: JC Jaros who wrote (17970)	7/20/1999 12:54:00 AM
From: Rusty Johnson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

MSFT knows great software ... they use Apache and UNIX. From linuxmall.com Apparently, Microsoft is using Apache to run one of MSN's sites - if you go to this link homepages.msn.com or follow the instructions on LinuxCare's site you'll find that they're using Apache 1.3.6 on some flavor of UNIX. Ed. It has to be the stability and performance that Apache offers, surely they don't charge themselves for their own licenses... (July 15, 1999) linuxcare.com Verifying Apache/UNIX at MSN You can directly query the Apache server at MSN using nc(netcat) or, alternatively, you can telnet to port 80 at homepages.msn.com. See the sample session below. @bassano [~] $ nc homepages.msn.com 80 HEAD / HTTP/1.0 Host: homepages.msn.com HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:18:54 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) Set-Cookie: tcid=TC-378CD495-N-N4zUjsCoASwAAA26Px4; expires=Thursday, 13-Jul-00 18:19:01 GMT; path=/; domain=.msn.com Connection: close Content-Type: text/html What this means: "nc" is a program, netcat, that enables you to create network connections. Here, we create a socket to homepages.msn.com, on port 80, the port usually associated with the web. We give it two strings, "HEAD / HTTP/1.0", and "Host: homepages.msn.com", and in turn, it gives us some information about itself, most notably, the fact that the server is Apache 1.3.6, running, presumably, on some flavor of Unix. That the server is running Apache is also easily ascertained by going to an invalid page at homepages.msn.com. The server returns the error message: Not Found The requested URL /invalid_url was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.6 Server at homepages.msn.com Port 489 Thanks to linuxmall.com

To: JC Jaros who wrote (17970)	7/20/1999 9:51:00 AM
From: Stormweaver	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

Umm, no. You probably haven't gotten the news yet over there on the Wintel threads but, as it turns out, this 'network' thing is ending up as a MUCH bigger deal than the old 'end user licensed / self administrating KB Toy desktop PC' schtick. I guess sys admin should be a painful experience then , just like it is under UNIX currently ... in other words let's perpetuate the broken metaphor of config file hacking and command line interfaces. Networks require qualified masochists to run them. The rest of the world beyond the small percentage which is the PC 'sell through', for whatever reason, would prefer their connected network device to be as easy to own and operate as their automobile (yet alone their telephone). p.s. The PC accounts for upwards of 80% of the worlds computers; not a small percentage. Things are supposed to get simpler not more complex ... at least in a world where things advance rather than stagnate; that's the problem with UNIX. Isn't Jini supposed to let you plug and play devices into the network ?