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To: teevee who wrote (4188)7/27/1999 1:19:00 PM
From: Confluence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7235
 
Hello teevee,

Welcome to the SUF thread!

If you want to dwell on something really scary, look into SUF's operation at Camafuca in Angola. The world's largest diamondiferous pipe, but if you do some digging you just might be able to find something amiss in Angola.

Good Luck!

Confluence

PS I know that many concerned, hard-working, conscientious South Africans left RSA in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Some went on to such things as founding diamond companies, and have even ventured back into RSA, emerging as Canada's first profitable diamond miner!



To: teevee who wrote (4188)7/27/1999 1:21:00 PM
From: gemsearcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7235
 
Hello Teevee.

"spiralling descent", "abyss" , "mass exodus" , "frantic".

While I welcome any informed view and genuine expressions of interest/fun speculation , please bear in mind that this thread is not given to hyperbole unless warranted. Please support with facts. Otherwise , you come across as some form of Chicken Little and will be ignored as such ; you and certainly the other people on this thread deserve better.

Regards.

P.S. I also welcome uninformed views , but that's just me being selfish! ;-)



To: teevee who wrote (4188)7/27/1999 1:42:00 PM
From: maxed  Respond to of 7235
 
Hi. Teevee. It has been about 9 days since winspear released there news. I believe Havamal best described what you have been thru.








Wounded I hung on a wind-swept gallows
For nine long nights,
Pierced by a spear, pledged to Odhinn,
Offered, myself to myself
The wisest know not from whence spring
The roots of that ancient rood

They gave me no bread,
They gave me no mead,
I looked down;
with a loud cry
I took up runes;
from that tree I fell.



To: teevee who wrote (4188)7/27/1999 2:01:00 PM
From: Valuepro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7235
 
STRATFOR.COM
Global Intelligence Update
July 27, 1999

U.S. Attempts to Contain and Segment African Conflicts

Summary:

The United States is reportedly stepping up military relations
with Angola and Botswana. This, combined with an apparent U.S.
initiative to repair relations with Sudan, as well as a series of
less substantial developments across Africa, suggests not only a
greater U.S. commitment to Africa, but a coherent strategy as
well. It appears that the U.S. has set about first containing,
then segmenting the spreading and interwoven web of African
conflicts -- a noble, but extremely risky, endeavor.

Analysis:

The Angolan newspaper Angolense reported in its July 17-24
edition that the United States has agreed to resume military
cooperation with Angola, which was suspended following Angola's
involvement in attempts to topple the government of Pascal
Lissouba in Congo. According to the newspaper, representatives
of the two governments reached agreements under which the U.S.
would provide airspace control equipment to Angola, approve the
training of Angolan troops by a private U.S. contractor, and help
draft an overall political, military, and social development plan
for Angola. In what we believe is related news, South Africa's
SAPA news agency reported that the U.S. would take part in
military exercises involving the Botswanan and South African
armed forces in late July and early August.

On one level, if true, the Angola report is interesting as it
implies the U.S. is now willing to actively support the MPLA
government in Luanda, abandoning the UNITA rebels it supported in
the Cold War. Luanda still receives aid from Russia, Cuba, and
Libya, making it all the more an unlikely partner for the United
States. However, engagement with the Angolan government is a
necessary component of what appears to be a developing U.S.
strategy in Africa -- contain and segment.

Africa's wars have blurred together into a nearly continental
conflict. Initially, there was the Sudan People's Liberation
Army (SPLA), backed by the United States, launching attacks on
the Islamic government in Khartoum from bases in Eritrea,
Ethiopia, and Uganda, with political offices in Egypt. In
return, Sudan backed Ugandan guerrilla armies. Sudan also
supported Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden, whose terrorist
network has been blamed for the bombings of U.S. embassies in
Kenya and Tanzania. The battle against the Sudanese government
was overshadowed by Ethiopia's attack on Eritrea, and the ensuing
war that has spread via proxy through Somalia. Kenya recently
became more involved in that conflict, assisting Ethiopia against
Eritrean-backed rebels in Somalia.

There was also the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo
(DRC), formerly Zaire until rebel forces under Laurent Kabila
overthrew Mobutu Sese Seko. Kabila's allies quickly turned
enemy, and his regime was challenged by Ugandan and Rwandan
backed Tutsi rebels. From there the battle only spread.
Angola's UNITA rebels, which had long maintained bases and
transport operations in Zaire, sided with the Tutsi rebels
against Kabila, while Angola, Namibia, and Zimbabwe supported
Kabila. Angola's involvement in the DRC and Congo was primarily
counter-UNITA, a pattern followed by Sudan when it provided
support to Kabila as a means of outflanking Uganda.

Angola has accused Zambia of backing UNITA, and South Africa is
maintaining a semi-hidden hand in all the conflicts. Russian and
Ukrainian mercenary pilots are peppered about the continent, and
the armories of China and the old East Bloc are supplying the
region by the boatload -- reportedly paid for by Middle Eastern
interests. Libya, too, joined in the fun, sending Chadian troops
to support Kabila, as well as attempting to mediate both the
Sudanese and Ethiopian-Eritrean conflicts and reportedly backing
Somali warlord Hussein Mohamed Aideed.

So now Africa has a web of war stretching from Mogadishu, through
Khartoum and Kinshasa, to Luanda, with filaments reaching out to
Tripoli, Harare, and beyond. Only the relatively uncontested
military of Nigeria has served as a bulwark between the central
and western African conflicts, and Nigeria is now facing its own
growing internal ethnic conflict. None of the conflicts are
soluble, since all are meshed.

It is in this context that the motives behind U.S. moves in
Angola and Botswana become clear. The U.S. appears to be
pursuing a policy of contain and segment in Africa. Containment
begins in Angola, Botswana, and no doubt Namibia. Africa's
continental conflict can not be allowed to spread further south.
In the north, Kenya is making sure the Ethiopian-Eritrean
conflict does not turn another corner, while negotiations
continue to settle that dispute. In Sudan, the U.S. is taking a
more positive approach to Khartoum, while Khartoum appears ready
to reach a compromise with the rebels. And the U.S. has
suggested the possibility of contributing troops to the
peacekeeping effort in the DRC, should a stable peace treaty be
signed. Britain, meanwhile, is improving relations with Libya,
while relations between the U.S. and Egypt -- soured during the
Netanyahu government in Israel -- are again improving.

If Nigeria doesn't go to pieces, the U.S. may have succeeded in
containing the web of conflict in the south, northwest, and
northeast -- the Sahara makes a great container to the north.
Its hope is to segment off at least the Sudanese and Ethiopian-
Eritrean conflicts from the wider conflict, allowing each to be,
if not resolved, at least contained individually. It's a great
idea, if it works. But webs have an incredible and unexpected
redundancy, and a timid web-cutter can quickly find himself
trapped.

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To: teevee who wrote (4188)7/27/1999 2:59:00 PM
From: VAUGHN  Respond to of 7235
 
Hello Teevee

It doesn't all sound quite so doom and gloom:

Off the wire today:

July 27, 1999 10:03

Starwood Opens Its First Hotel in South Africa: 175-Room Sheraton Pretoria Hotel & Towers
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y., July 27 /PRNewswire/ -- Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide, Inc., one of the world's leading hotel companies, is making its debut in South Africa with today's opening of the Sheraton Pretoria Hotel and Towers. The hotel, owned by Kharafi Holdings Ltd. of Kuwait, is being managed by Sheraton Hotels and Resorts.

"This is the hotel built for the new millennium," says Sami Zoghbi, president of Starwood's Africa, India and Middle East division. "The property will become an integral part of the meeting and conference market in South Africa."

Located opposite the landmark Union building, which is the office of the country's president, the hotel has 175 rooms including 36 tower rooms, seven diplomatic and nine junior suites, and one presidential suite with a spectacular view of the Union Buildings. One floor is designed for members of the company's Starwood Preferred Guest program.

"Pretoria is a city where guests demand exceptional quality and the highest international standards," says general manager Klaus Gurny. "This is what we are delivering with the Sheraton Pretoria Hotel and Towers."

"Starwood is offering the most sophisticated meeting and conference facilities in South Africa," adds Zoghbi. "In addition, banqueting and hospitality at the Sheraton Pretoria Hotel and Towers will be second to none."

The hotel's two Jacaranda ballrooms are expected to be popular venues for elite conferences and seminars. All auditoriums and conference rooms offer slide and overhead projectors, flip chart, screen, Barco system and video conference connections.

International cuisine will be featured in Via Veneto, an ultra-modern Italian/Mediterranean restaurant that features Spanish paellas, Italian pizzas, Lebanese mezzas and fresh seafood. For nightlife, the hotel offers bars, lounges, an outdoor terrace restaurant, round-the-clock dining, a ragtime jazz club and Stars Studio nightclub, a satellite operation a few blocks from the hotel, managed by Sheraton.

Nearby attractions include the Pretoria Zoo, shopping centers, the Sammy Marks Museum, the Museum of Natural History, Church Square and several golf courses. Guests also may visit private game reserves and the Sterkfontein caves.