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To: Brian Collins who wrote (25730)	7/28/1999 1:24:00 PM
From: Evolution	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213186

OT** Show me a more powerful or simple spreadsheet than Excel I agree with the general content of your post... However, you cannot possibly claim that there is no simpler spreadsheet than Excel (regardless of features). I'd return the question: show me a spreadsheet more complicated than Excel. Clarisworks' spreadsheet, for one, is simpler. Each new version of Excel has been more complicated than the previous. I used to feel I knew and could use ALL of Excel's features. Now no longer! I am even sometimes stuck not knowing how to do something. Example: Merged cells... what a mess! And I think Mac user of Excel are privileged. Just try the latest Windows version of Excel! I think you probably meant show me a more powerful AND* simple spreadsheet than Excel*, i.e., a simple spreadsheet with a similar level of functionality.

To: Brian Collins who wrote (25730)	7/28/1999 1:31:00 PM
From: BillHoo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213186

<<I defy you to show me a more powerful or simple spreadsheet than Excel. >> I agree, but I must say that it all seemed much easier to use when Excel was available for the Mac only and PC users were using Multi-Plan or whatever they were using in DOS. In it's current state, I find it a chore to use for word processing, slide making, animation and web hosting (all features built-in to make it more "powerful"). -Bill_H

To: Brian Collins who wrote (25730)	7/28/1999 1:51:00 PM
From: MeDroogies	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213186

A) I use MSFT Windows by default. I don't have alot of choice at work - so it transfers to my home. I'm buying an iMac for me and my kids, though. B) I agree about Excel - but disagree wholeheartedly about IE. It's a piece of crap, IMHO. It's bulky, hard to manage and often confusing. It conflicts with virtually everything that's open on Windows while I use it, and it's slow as s**t (no, that's true - NSCP actually loads screens faster -- don't ask me why or how).

To: Brian Collins who wrote (25730)	7/28/1999 1:59:00 PM
From: BillHoo	Respond to of 213186

<<You didn't specify to which platform you are referring too? If Wintel, pardon my remarks; if Mac>> If you are on NT with Service Pack 5 installed, watch out! SP5 will reformat all of your Excel documents stipping away fonts, column sizing, bold, italics, and various point sizes fo documents created before the Service Pack install. SP5 came out to fix the bugs that caused your NT system to crash in SP4. SP4 came out to fix the Y2K bugs in NT. Not much time left for SP6 before the big blackout party. (I may find a DataVision store somewhere and wait outside on New Year's with a brick to grab the 41 inch Pillips flat screen before someone else does the same.) -Bill_H

To: Brian Collins who wrote (25730)	7/28/1999 4:22:00 PM
From: Matt Peterson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213186

I defy you to show me a more powerful or simple spreadsheet than Excel. --- More Powerful: Wingz More Simple: Claris Works Now, that wasn't too hard now, was it? To be honest, Excel has generally been an excellent product. However, these last two releases have really gone down hill. IMHO, not only have they not introduced anything worthwhile in their upgrades since 1993, Excel and Word are now both buggier than hell. The funny thing us, Excel 97 seems to be buggier on NT than 98 on my Macs. What's also interesting is that there are several [data destroying] bugs in Excel and Word that have been around since at least Office 95 and affect all platforms.