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To: Elmer who wrote (66908)	7/29/1999 7:37:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574595

Elmer - RE: "The claims made here over the last many months have been for a major leap forward in performance." Who has been talking about a "major leap forward in performance"? "As it appears, the MIA-thlon will barely squeak out a small lead over Coppermine in FPU and be a tossup in integer. Not the breakthru normally associated with a new generation. As always, your mileage may vary." In what, SPECfp and SPECint? Where are the benchmarks??? What happened to not liking it when others talked about foils? Has Cuontimemine brought an about-face in your attitude towards unannounced processors? If IF Cuontimemine does narrow the lead btwn it and Athlon in FPU in SPECfp, you should be reminded that AMD ran their benchmarks on a non-Athlon optimized compiler. And I REALLY doubt the extra 128KB cache the Cuontimemine will have over Celeron will close the gap, so what Intel will probably do is use SSE as someone earlier stated. Do you think AMD will let Intel brag about a lead using SSE while AMD doesn't use 3D Now!? I don't think so, and I hope AMD doesn't think so either.

To: Elmer who wrote (66908)	7/29/1999 7:43:00 PM
From: fyo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574595

EP - Re:The claims made here over the last many months have been for a major leap forward in performance. Claims of "fastest processor in the world" and "a new era in performance" have been tossed about. I think the claims are pretty much justified. You also have to look at the headroom - and again this has to do with the definition of '7th generation'. The Athlon is (supposedly) much easier to ramp in frequency. With all the Intelabee claims that AMD's production is so much worse than Intel's, I find it remarkable that there is talk (yes, only talk at this stage) that AMD may well surpass Intel in 'the MHz race' this year. (and spare me the 'jacking up the voltage' rant). Or doesn't this count as part of the equation? - Scalability in MHz - Scalability in SMP - 200MHz FSB --fyodor