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To: Neocon who wrote (48335)8/2/1999 11:55:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I suppose it depends what you mean by modern- and since you don't define terms it is impossible to know what you mean. And obviously, you can't know what all conservatives or even most "think" they are doing. You can say what they say they are doing (unless you are clairvoyant- and can actually read minds, and thus KNOW that what they say they are thinking is what they are actually thinking.)

I suppose one could be SO conservative that one would be a pagan- wishing to return to the earliest cultures. It is always a problem knowing how far to go back, isn't it? History and that "deep continuity" of culture can be used for any purpose



To: Neocon who wrote (48335)8/2/1999 12:02:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
My understanding is that sectarian divisions, AKA heresy, has been part of Christian history since the beginning, that is, the first and second century, CE (e.g., Ebionites, Gnostics, Marcionites, Docetae, Donatists, Paulicans, Arians, Manichae, all before the fourth century, and Albigensians, Bogomils, Cathars and Waldenses in the Middle Ages, to name but a few).I'm looking at an Enclopedia Brittanica article on "Heresy", which states, and I am sure you'll agree with this, that the development of the Apostles', Nicene, and Athanasian creeds are attempts to deal with divergences in dogma.

And I suggest that liberals, too, believe that they are the defenders and promoters of human values worthy of conservation.