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To: DRBES who wrote (69160)8/18/1999 7:21:00 PM
From: Yougang Xiao  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1573228
 
HP says skip the Merced chip, wait for new version
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
August 18, 1999, 3:45 p.m. PT
URL: news.com

SAN FRANCISCO--Although Intel steadfastly maintains that its Merced chip will be more than just a test bed,
Hewlett-Packard, co-designer of the chip, recommends that customers bypass it and wait for the next one.

The release date and performance of Merced has prompted many observers to say that the chip, the first "IA-64" processor,
would be merely a test drive for the advanced architecture. HP's decision, announced at a conference here, is the first time that
an insider and main proponent of the chip has recommending skipping it.

About a year ago, HP was showing a road map that had its server computers adopting Merced in 2000.

Now, HP's own PA-RISC 8500 chip and upcoming 8600 are fast enough that HP recommends that customers simply skip
Merced and move on to the second-generation 64-bit chip, dubbed McKinley, said HP's Eric Clow at the HP World
conference.

"The decision was made to make the natural upgrade to the McKinley," Clow said. "The 8500 and 8600 performance can
carry you through to that time."

Coming from Intel's closest partner for the 64-bit chip line, the words are a significant illustration of the perils of delay of the
Merced chip. HP has advanced its own chip plans in light of the delay.

HP has had a central role in Intel's 64-bit chip architecture. HP invented the chip architecture as a successor to the high-speed
RISC chips that power most Unix machines today, but it signed a deal with Intel to make the chips in order to carry the design
into high-volume markets.

Merced has been delayed several months and currently isn't expected to arrive in computers until the latter half of 2000. HP
has been helping to design the chips but has a heavier influence on McKinley.

The first Merced prototypes are almost due, said Bill Russell, chief operating officer of HP's enterprise computing group. "We
expect chips back in the next two to three weeks," Russell said in a keynote address today. The release could well coincide
with the Intel Developer Forum starting August 31.

Linley Gwennap, a respected Intel analyst at Cahners Microdesign Resources, has said that a delay of one year between first
prototypes and first computer systems is typical for well-understood chips, and that Merced comes with the additional
uncertainty of being a brand-new design. As a result of the delays, most analysts say Merced will function as a warm-up for
McKinley.

Though the chip architecture hasn't arrived as swiftly as Intel hoped, the chip still features prominently in the server lines from
the biggest computing companies. HP, IBM, Compaq Computer, Dell Computer, SGI, and others all plan to sell servers using
the chip. Sun Microsystems will sell its Solaris operating system for IA-64, but its own servers will continue to use its
UltraSparc chips.

HP and SGI both plan eventually to drop their own RISC chip designs in favor of IA-64 designs.

HP boasts of having an advantage over competitors with IA-64: Software written for its PA-RISC systems will run on IA-64
systems without having to be modified.

"PA-RISC binary compatibility is an architectural feature of IA-64," Clow said. "You won't find it with Sparc, Alpha, MIPS,
or PowerPC" chips, he said.

In addition, HP has produced the essential supporting chips that will let IA-64 chips talk to the rest of the system. Those
supporting chips, called the chipset, are built into HP's new N-class servers.

One key part of the IA-64 architecture is having a good compiler, the special software that converts programs written by
people in "high-level" languages into instructions understandable by the underlying hardware. HP has been working closely with
Microsoft, which is busy getting its Windows 2000 operating system to work on IA-64. "They're very interested in our
compiler expertise," Clow said.



To: DRBES who wrote (69160)8/18/1999 11:13:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573228
 
dUMBERBES - Re: "And, indeed it is, in a time-wise frame of reference; though I suspect that such is not exactly what you meant: HOW CORRECT YOU ARE!!!!! and ... STAY TUNED!!!!!

AMD is at an all time high today.

AThlon systems are available at stores everywhere.

500 MHz Kxyz's are available in gum ball machines.

And all is right in dUMBERBES TUN-I-ED WORLD !!!!

Paul