SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/19/1999 11:21:00 AM
From: KeepItSimple  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
William, I dont care how un-funny your attempt at humor was, I just have to give you credit for posting a message that was longer than one sentence!

See, it isnt so hard...



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/19/1999 11:30:00 AM
From: H James Morris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
>>Two active posters on Silicon Investor, masking the complete confusion in their outlook, seed and sawed their way through the morning making claims and revised claims of boxed and unboxed positions shorting the Internet leadership. <<
Wow!! this is not a on-liner! I'm ROFL.
I didn't know that you lived in Vaporville?



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/19/1999 11:46:00 AM
From: Eric Wells  Respond to of 164684
 
The amazing thing about bubbles is the rapidity and unpredictability with which they burst. Below are a few excerpts from "Devil Take the Hindmost" by Edward Chancellor describing the bursting of some famous bubbles. -Eric

The Tulip Mania (1637 crash):

"On February 3, 1637, the tulip market suddenly crashed. There was no clear reason for the panic except that spring was approaching when delivery fell due and the game would be up. <<the majority of tulip contracts were for bulbs in the ground>> In Haarlem, the centre of the flower trade, rumours circulated that there were no more buyers, and the next day tulips were unsaleable at any price."

The South Sea Bubble (1720 crash):

"By the middle of September (1720), the South Sea directors gave up hope of staving off a collapse and started selling mortgaged stock with the intention of buying it back later at a lower price. A few days later the Sword Blade Bank, which acted as banker to the South Sea Company and had made extensive loans against its stock, failed. By the end of September, the share price was below 200, a fall of around 75 percent in four weeks. At a meeting of the South Sea Company, a shareholder declared that the ruin was so widespread it had 'almost become unfashionable not to be bankrupt.'"

The South American Mining Mania (1825 crash):

"In January 1825, nearly seventy companies (including five railways) were floated. Speculation in commodities, loans and shares continued strongly for several months, but in the spring the euphoria began to wane. South American bond prices went into decline, and continued falling throughout the summer. In late August, a small loan for the United Provinces of Central America was floated, but it failed to attract any support and its scrip fell to an immediate discount. In the same month, Brazilian scrip also dropped despite an announcement of continuing interest payments. Investors had tired of receiving their dividends out of capital. As a summer torpor set in, trading on the stock market was thin. Investors began ignoring calls on partly paid shares, which led several companies to petition for dissolution. The leading stock of the mining mania, the Real del Monte, fell from a high of 1550 to under 200."

The US Stock Market Crash of 1929:

"In the face of minor stock market panics - in June and December 1928 and later in March 1929 - the bull forces succeeded in regrouping. They came out stronger for their trials, until the point was reached when speculators became deaf to warnings they did not wish to hear and developed a belief in their own invincibility. Instead of reasoning, they thrived on the countless rumours of fabulous wealth gained in the stock market by valets, chauffeurs, cattlemen, actresses, farmers' wives and so on..." " According to Festinger, a group will maintain a state of cognitive dissonance until the pain exceeds the rewards. In stock market terms this might be seen as the moment when the fear of loss outweighs the greed for gain. That point was reached on 3 September 1929, when the Dow Jones reached its year high. The following day, at an annual National Business Conference, an investment adviser named Roger Babson forecast an imminent stock market crash. He predicted that 'factories will shut down...men twill be thrown out of work...the vicious circle will get in full swing and the result will be a serious business depression.' The pronouncement elicited a savage response from the apostles of the new era. No pun was too corny. One paper dubbed Babson 'the prophet of Babsonmindedness." Stockbrokers pointed out that Babson had made the same forecast in the two previous years. Professor Irving emerged from his ivory tower to justify the current stock price levels and deny the likelihood of a crash..." "From the moment it opened on Tuesday, 29 October, the stock market was deluged by a further wave of sale orders as margin calls forced speculators to dispose of their stocks. On the floor of the Exchange, a broker grabbed a messenger by his hair, another fled the floor screaming like a madman, jackets were torn, collars dislodged and clerks in their frenzy lashed out at each other. The panic worsened after the technology upon with the market had become dependent collapsed: the transatlantic cable broke, the ticker stopped running, telephone lines became clogged with enquiries, and the telegraph system was unable to cope with the volume of broker's margin calls sent out across the nation. In New York, Western Union was forced to hire a fleet of taxis to deliver its telegrams. When the market closed, the ticker carried on clattering its dismal message for two hours. The Dow Jones Industrials were down 30 points at 230, on a massive turnover of sixteen and a half million shares. They called it the 'day of the millionaires' slaughter'. On Black Tuesday, the glamour stocks of the bull market suffered the worst damage. Radio Corporation of America, which on Monday had shed $19, collapsed from 40.25 to 26 in the first two hours of trading (at which point it was down 75 percent from its peak); the Goldman Sachs Trading Corporation opened at 60 and closed at 35; Blue Ridge, its affiliated investment trust, which a few weeks earlier was selling for 24, dropped from 10 to 3; and the United Corporation, J. P. Morgan's giant utility, went from 26 to 19.30. Bank stocks were slaughtered. The First National Bank of New York declined from $5200 to $1600, while National City sank from 455 to 300, despite a rearguard action from Charles Mitchell, who personally borrowed $12 million to support the stock. The Hollywood favourites - Paramount, Fox, and Warner Brothers - were also hit hard. For many stocks, there was simply no bid. A messenger boy was reported to have picked up a parcel of White Sewing Machine Company, which had traded earlier in the year at 48 and closed the previous day at 11 1/8, for a dollar a share."



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/19/1999 11:48:00 AM
From: Mac S. Giballa  Respond to of 164684
 
William, great post!!! I was thinking the same thing. What airheads!!!



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/19/1999 12:21:00 PM
From: Klinger  Respond to of 164684
 
Now, that's funny!!! :)



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/19/1999 12:27:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 164684
 
:-)

Fwiw to anybody interested, I watch options daily on the big stocks and it isn't worth trading them unless you get a 10-pt move, and in some cases like ebay even more (due to the spreads). So I doubt going from puts to call intraday on days like today is profitable.



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/19/1999 12:42:00 PM
From: McNabb Brothers  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
William,

I know KP&C's is one of the investors, but who is the other one you are referring too?

Hank



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (74658)8/20/1999 5:06:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
One even claimed to have consulted a broker, adding "I know I said these stocks are going to the moon and nothing is
stopping them and that he mania is back. Now they're going to hell. No, the moon. No, hell."


Let's see I boxed. They went down no I did not box LOL.

Great post William:-)