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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Ali Chen who wrote (69246)8/19/1999 2:51:00 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1573221
 
All,
a 500-600k block appears it just got dumped.
Wasn't me.

steve



To: Ali Chen who wrote (69246)8/19/1999 3:20:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Respond to of 1573221
 
<"Tweaking"? It was clearly stated everywhere that the 3D kernel DLL was OTIMIZED for AMD Athlon instructions, with permission of the benchmark vendor.>

First of all, you forgot to mention this part of the official statement:

The official use and/or reporting of scores should be based solely on 3DMark 99 MAX as provided by Futuremark, and should not include results based on any AMD specific engineering version of the software.

Seems like AMD is trying to pass off their own 3DMark results as "official" scores, according to Futuremark. Had AMD said that those scores were "unofficial" and based on an altered DLL which was "optimized" for Athlon, then I'll bet Futuremark would have no beef.

Second, I have no problem with AMD's tweaking ... er ... optimizing the DLL for the benchmark. It's all part of the benchmarking game, and unfortunately it happens all the time. That's why I trust independent web sites like Anandtech or Tom's Hardware Guide over corporate marketing guys.

Third, you missed my original point, which was the notion that you see an Intel conspiracy behind just about anything that remotely paints AMD in a negative light. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if you blamed the Y2K bug on an Intel-inspired conspiracy.

Tenchusatsu



To: Ali Chen who wrote (69246)8/19/1999 4:27:00 PM
From: Joseph S. Lione  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573221
 
Ali - "It is utter nonsense to demonstrate 3D capabilities
of a processor without using instructions
that were designed specifically for 3D rendering."

That makes perfect sense. But I think it's not quite accurate to use that number to compare with another processor that was not optimized.

Athlon may well beat PIII without the "extra" .dll.

Score one for the evil empire.

Joe