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To: Starduster234 who wrote (52190)	8/19/1999 3:56:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I can imagine. My great aunt just died last year (she was over 90) and my step-father is 83 years old. Both told me the US was much better before the IRS and Social Security. Their parents and all the people they knew were not impoverished, the extended family unit was much stronger and people looked out for each other. It was not as much a nation of strangers back then as it is today.

To: Starduster234 who wrote (52190)	8/19/1999 7:10:00 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 108807

<<I am only too happy to pay my income tax. I know what it was like to live through WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. >> Dang, you are one hell of a soldier. You must have a great US pension.

To: Starduster234 who wrote (52190)	8/20/1999 12:58:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 108807

>>..Robert Ball at 85 knows ..that is why he is still fighting to keep the basic principles intact.. Robert Ball is one of the biggest jokes around, a heinous old atavist. Talk about time warps, no wonder you're so far out from reality. Thanks to socialists like Ball we now have an unprecedented situation were the richest segment of society, the elderly, receives a great tranfer of wealth from the poorest, the young. The past is sucking the blood from the future, courtesy of Social Security. >>I have watched the current generation lose the freedom that my generation enjoyed Thanks to liberal Dems: "Indeed, the New Deal and its sky-high pile of intrusive laws may be the longest lasting legacy of unified government. Dozens of the programs it spawned plague us still. Thanks to Franklin Roosevelt and a compliant Democratic Congress, Americans are saddled with a rotting Social Security system, a federal government that knows few limits and the American welfare state. The New Deal also sired a belief system that favors statism over limited government. Constitutional scholar Edward S. Corwin underscored this when he said Americans' views on government's role went through a revolutionary change during the early years of the New Deal. The result? A major change in how most Americans view and cherish the Constitution. For many lawmakers today, the Constitution is more a historical relic than a guiding principle. Without that guidance, federal power has little restraint. Journalist John T. Flynn saw this in 1948 when he said the New Deal gave us a ''state-supported economic system that will continue to devour a little at a time the private system until it disappears altogether.'' The private system remains, but the market is not entirely free. It has been snared by rules and crushing taxes that can be traced, directly or indirectly, to the New Deal. True, the American people chose Roosevelt to rescue the country from the Great Depression. He was given broad, almost dictatorial power to end the suffering. But Roosevelt demagogued, ignored the Constitution and turned people against the free market. His propaganda machine set the tone for an America that gave up its freedoms for perceived security. The New Deal mindset - and a unified government - let President Johnson vainly wage war on poverty in the '60s. Johnson pursued his Great Society with a ceaseless federal spending spree that could not - and did not - lift the poor from their plight."