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To: Rambi who wrote (36112)	8/25/1999 7:47:00 PM
From: Thomas C. White	Respond to of 71178

Anyway, what do you think? Humor the manchild penni. He has not even started school in earnest yet, and will undoubtedly pass through about thirty iterations of very earnest but utterly ephemeral life planning in the next year. If eighteen hours is too much, he will either drop one or else bust his patootie and get through and say, "God I will never do that again." And in the end he will probably finish his senior year at the helm of a dotcom and go IPO in a year and a half and be worth more than the entire net worth of everyone who has ever posted or will ever post on DAR.

To: Rambi who wrote (36112)	8/25/1999 9:32:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

And he's also toying with EE as a major and taking 5 years to get all three of them, so he can know both hard and soft systems? I suspect he'll figure out hard and soft systems before the first year is out.

To: Rambi who wrote (36112)	8/25/1999 9:34:00 PM
From: ZinMaster	Respond to of 71178

> wondering if you were in EE? Good question. I guess I'm in xE, where x = {chemical, electrical, mechanical, social, aeronautical, materials, etc.}, and E is Engineering. What was it you didn't understand about staying out till 4am catching frogs? Does Rice give grades for freshmen? If not, then he should load up on all the classes he doesn't want to be graded on later. His study habits are probably the best they will ever be right now. By the end of this school year, he will have new interests that he hasn't even thought of yet. The new things will all take up time. By his senior year, he won't have time to go to class at all. So he might as well take all the hard classes up front anyway. Give me a call when your heading west. I'll probably be here (dammit). I'd hate to miss your visit, but I'm getting some serious wanderlust coming on. Will have to go somewhere soon. -z

To: Rambi who wrote (36112)	8/25/1999 10:59:00 PM
From: DScottD	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

That is one heck of a load for a first semester freshman. My undergrad school didn't even allow freshmen to take 200 level courses. His ambition is admirable, but I think 18 hours is too much until he's been through at least a semester or two of a 15 hour load and experienced the difficulty of that. I did a joint law/MBA program at Northwestern and had the equivalent of 18 hours a couple of semesters in that program and even though I was a graduate student, it was still damn difficult. And that was after having 6 years of experience in college. If I were CW, with my hindsight, I'd drop a 3 hour class and kind of ease in and enjoy my first semester of college. Otherwise, you are guaranteed to get a desperation call from him in early December in which he will say he can't handle the pressure and he is ready to quit. I know because I did exactly that my third year of grad school. DSD Edit. Having read the other encouraging posts in response to your post, I would have to respectfully disagree with them. At least from my personal experience, I thought I had good study habits when I entered college, but I found out pretty quick that I did not know what the hell I was doing. By the time I was in my last year of law school, I could take exams in my sleep and get A's or B's going into exams cold. But as a freshman in undergrad, I was ready to quit after the first round of exams because it was so hard and so different from high school. Taht said, I have a lot of admiration for CW and I'm confident he is well prepared for the challenges ahead of him. How would he like a little side action of the Northwestern-Rice football game? I think they play each other this year. I'll look at the schedule and get back to you. Edit edit. NU replaced Rice with TCU on this year's schedule. A real bummer.

To: Rambi who wrote (36112)	8/26/1999 2:43:00 AM
From: Michael Sphar	Respond to of 71178

"...so he can know both hard and soft systems?" Uh, Geek talk for something to do with birds, bees and fireants I presume ?

To: Rambi who wrote (36112)	8/26/1999 5:15:00 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 71178

I trust that is heavy-weight physics with two three hour labs. The standard freshman engineering load is 18 hours or so, so he should be able to handle it easily. He should take a few courses as he can and have some time to read. Auditing courses is a super way to learn. If he still plans to become a CEO he should plan on doing one heavyweight bachelor's degree (EE, CS and not to try to learn all technology. He can't. Encourage him to get some useful work in summers (E&Y should take care of him).

To: Rambi who wrote (36112)	8/26/1999 7:28:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

Dear Zin, Cobe, TC, nihil, DSD, Michael, I just compiled all your posts about college and grades and sent them off to CW. I did leave out the one about sleeping with the professors. I think he'll get a kick out of them, and probably feel as if he had an extended family of aunts and uncles keeping an eye out. He did let me know today that 5 of the hours are in French. I don't know whether to laugh or roll my eyes in despair at this. He enrolled in First Year!! He's already had four years of high school French and won a first in state competition. Not only that, he's taking it Pass-Fail. (Zin, they're allowed one P-F a semester) He says he's doing this becuase he has to get credits in something outside his science stuff. And the course he wanted to take-- some sort of Religion course that studies the development of Western thought starting with Aristotle and Plato and somehow compares it with Eastern-- was full already. So it's not as bad as I thought. Thank you all for the input- I sure enjoyed it and I think he will too. Love ya all!