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Strategies & Market Trends : Anthony @ Equity Investigations, Dear Anthony, -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 9:52:00 PM
From: M. Dion  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan......In all do respects.......Your bantering is only an admission of guilt that you have done something wrong.....and the decision to allow anthony to come back on and then removing him within hours shows a clear lack of management at silicon......

Was it worth it.......Do you have a gauge that can tell how many people have posted before and after....such a shame......i think their was plenty of room for anthony......you folks complimented each other.....

anthony shorts stocks....how many threads do that.......his doesnt have thousands of threads like this......where is the competition?

The old expression.....penny wise...dollar foolish...

I expect to be thrown out of si as a result of this post......I hope not.......good luck ...

mike



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 9:52:00 PM
From: Bruce Denney  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan...you forgot to turn out the lights, the SI that many
have turned to ---has turned on us and this is all
the explanation we get. Well Bryan that makes it pretty easy
to say it your were correct in stating that you will not
gather many popularity points around here. Truly absurd, and
what is your excuse for Mary being terminated and will that
bring prior restraints on any of their children ever using si.
BD



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 9:56:00 PM
From: Tom Swift  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Why then do you let minors post on SI since that is a specific violation of the TOU.

I don't know why you terminated AOP, but SI has had a long history of interpreting the TOU rules to suit themselves and I suppose you had your reasons.

However, the playing field should be level.

I refer specifically to Daniel Miller and Fatt Matt, both of whom have been subject to external news articles that present clear evidence that that are, in fact, minors, and are violating the terms of use by posting on SI.

When I last asked about this, I got no response. I personally think that children should not be allowed to post on SI when it is clear that they are, in fact, children, from external sources.




To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 10:48:00 PM
From: tool dude  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
Brian,how many people have benefited from "A"s help not only in the market place but in their personal lives as well.Who got off their butt when the war broke out and spent weeks helping refugees find there kids and brought them clothes $ and food.How many others here fought to bring them back to America and take them into their home and find them work and look after them.Who else at SI formed a collection to help Mother Teresa Foundation and made sure the $ did the best good.Who else risk their life to help people that could never hope to pay him back,Who else here even thought to help the common man protect himself from crooks and criminals in the market place and asked nothing in return.I dont know one and sad to say myself included.It is SI who has lost their greatest asset and the traders who were lucky enough to join SI and get Anthony.If you cared at all about what is best for all involved you would have listened to the pleas for help from your members and been men enough to put this behind us and let this slide.If your really concerned about integrity this man is the master of it.I do thank you for responding though;now lets get this silly matter done,bring Tony and wife back for your own best interest. Thanks,Pete



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 11:08:00 PM
From: byhiselo  Respond to of 122087
 
Dear Mssr. BryanB,

surely you can do better. Please don't be afraid to burden us with the truth. We can take it. Wizard of Oz, remember that one? Are you now judge and jury and if so, is there a jury of peers? Are you completely undoubtably impartial? I thought, perhaps mistakenly, this was the new media? Yes, you are protecting us from ourselves, no? GNET and your options will suffer, mark my words. This clean, well-lighted place now seems to be fading and somewhat dirty. Respect? Respect is earned, sometimes unexpectedly, not hoped for.

peace and cheers,

byhiselo, nice concept, but doesnt always work



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 11:11:00 PM
From: Paul A  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Boy.. I just don't get it.

Big mistake s/i.. BIG mistake..

I owned a 300bps chat system known as a 'diversi dial' and we ran into alot of the growing pains you folks are just now experiencing 10-15 years later. Trust me.. if you start cutting members like Anthony, Silicon Investor will become a wasteland.. nothing...

You folks were LUCKY to have the likes of Anthony drawing masses to your site.. Without them this is nothing more than another website. period..

What you did to Anthony was wrong... Plain/simple/cut/dry...

....Not to mention all the paying S/I participants who are now robbed of free advice from a master trader! Why should you folks care?

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 11:28:00 PM
From: eims2000  Respond to of 122087
 
Hey Anthony, check out this Friday night 9:34 PM press release from BryanB. Doesn't this remind you of some of the scammy stocks that we use to short that would release bad news after hours when the least number of people were watching? :-)

rhansen



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/27/1999 11:41:00 PM
From: eims2000  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 122087
 
(From Anthony)

Dear Friends,
I read the letter posted by Brian,, and I felyt as if I were reading my own obituary, I came to SI as a fluke ,, I opened a thread, and titled it , Dear Anthony, in the hopes that my experience on Wall Street, witch is a corrupt and dirty place & where one person will galdly eat your heart out for a 1/16 of a point, woule aid others and shewd a beacon of light on the investing community, to explain, sometimes in the most painful detail, how the street works and in some way repay the public, for some of the wrongs that I have seen and witnessed and to detail how theyt can avoid becoming a victim. I wanted people to see that I was for reak and that my entry and exits were for real and not staged.. I never talked about owning a stock after it had gone up or being short a stock after its drop..I was hoping to bring a new honesty to the internet.One that withstood the test of time..In that I failed, I let my passions get the best of me, I let my own frailties overcome the goals I had set. I enjoyed theese last 9 months..Its hard to believ it has only been 9 months, it feels as if I have spent a decade here. I have tried to make a difference, and maybe in small way I have ..BUt ,onething is certain..Wall Street wont change ..unless my message is carried out on by each and everyone here..spread the message and do not let it fade..Explain and teach what you know to those who who know not, and may those people understand better than those who read this now.

The internet is a powerful place and with it people can be saved and people vcan be destroyed..Apparantly, this message is needs to be silenced as it was getting too loud. I wanted to part and say that my goals havent changed and ..you dont have to worry about me, I will be around ,,I will be in contact in one way or another maybe not here but I will continue on my work, for I believe that there is no more an honorable way to make a living than by uncovering fraud and scammers..Undoubtedly there will be a dramatic increase in such activity here on SI , since I am banished from this place.

I chose SI, because it had some rules and some structure, I wil not take this oppurtunity to attack anyone at SI, those words have been said, and that fight has been lost..They did what they had to do, and while I cannot change it, I will forever remember it..We all evolve and mature over time, and I am glad that I shared some incredibly joyous moments with thousands of you. and I have the honor and privelege of continuing to work and learn with hundreds of you, I feel sad , yes, but I also believe this is another lesson upon wich to draw some wisdom from. At times ..I have been generous and at times I have been downright ruthless, but never at the expense of my integrity, Keep the thread alive ,in spirit and purpose..and never allow scammers and hypesters and criminals the oppurtunity to fill my void with hot air and false promises..Beware of imposters and those who say they speak on my behalf, they will undoubtedly try to influence those who look to this place for truth and guidance and a willing ear.

I have always tried to answer each and every Pm and post adressed to me , sometimes posting as amny as 300-500 posts in a 2 or 3 day period.. I am sorry to those people taht I will not be able to hear anymore, I am angry at myself for allowing myself to have this happen. Apparantly a bullet has been fired and it appears at this point that it was a fatal shot ..I will accept the cdecision and move along .

I loved being here for you,

May God Bless you and yours and may peace fall upon you,

Anthony@Pacific

August 27, 1999



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 12:03:00 AM
From: johnsto1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
bad move to terminate this guy.I don't agree with all he says but it's a veterans hard fought perspective and SI should be ashamed for caving in and pushing him out.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 12:38:00 AM
From: ProDeath  Respond to of 122087
 
This is SI's loss, both in losing popular contributors and in continuing to lose credibility in the areas of integrity and prudence.

For months I watched a 15 year old kid ( Daniel Miller ) dispense advice and stock picks and wondered what sort of management would look the other way for the sake of the notoriety of having a 'whiz kid' on the site. One way or the other, SI looked bad in this matter; either his age violated Terms of Service and common sense or Miller was a marionette manipulated by unseen adults; it appeared SI was conveniently overlooking these considerations or felt they were not material.

For that same management to talk about integrity and dedication and an obligation to a community is the worst sort of self-indulgent nonsense, and it's embarrassing to read it. Pretty much a load of something I'd better not type the word for here, lest my post be deleted or my account cancelled.

I'm certain Anthony will do well. I'm not so certain the same thing can be said of SI. I guess we shall see.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 3:00:00 AM
From: zonkie  Respond to of 122087
 
Something for everyone to ponder.
____________________________

sgrm.com

First Colonial Ventures Ltd. is a minor venture-capital firm whose stock trades on the OTC bulletin board--so small that it is not required to file more than token disclosures with the Securities & Exchange Commission. But for market makers in small-cap stocks, First Colonial looms huge. It is an object lesson: When the Mob speaks, market makers obey.

The incidents took place early in October, one week after the assault at Sharpe. First came a beating. A trader at Naib Trading Corp. in Fort Lauderdale was summoned to the office of a man by the name of Roy Ageloff. The trader has told associates that Ageloff had beaten him once before with a nail-pierced baseball bat. This time, he said, Ageloff left the room. Then a 400-pound hoodlum knocked him down and kicked him while he was on the floor. The message: Stay away from First Colonial.

The trader at Naib was not the only one to suffer ''persuasion'' over First Colonial. Sources say that four other firms were approached with warnings to cease trading in the stock. To be sure, it was not a total success. There was one rebuff: A market maker in the little town of Hurst, Tex., Anthony Elgindy of Key West Securities Inc., says he ignored warnings that traders who did not comply would soon be ''facing the ceiling''--and has received numerous threatening phone calls since then. But at two other market makers, the intimidation worked. They ceased making a market in First Colonial.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 3:42:00 AM
From: Pink Minion  Respond to of 122087
 
Where's Tony?

Did the Nazi's take him out back and shoot him?

SHORT GNET

MH



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 5:11:00 AM
From: Mama Bear  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Hey, if you can't beat 'em with logic, baffle 'em with bullsh!t, right Bryan?

With a sincere lack of respect,

Barb



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 6:49:00 AM
From: FDHIII  Respond to of 122087
 
If I were not allowed to join your site A&P I would truly miss you here, Your posts and insight gave me a paradigm shift in my thinking Anthony. You will be missed.

Dear Friends,

I read the letter posted by Brian,, and I felt as if I were reading my own obituary, I came to SI as a fluke ,, I opened a thread, and titled it , Dear Anthony, in the hopes that my experience on Wall Street, wich is a corrupt and dirty place & where one person will galdly eat your heart out for a 1/16 of a point, would aid others and shed a beacon of light for the investing community in the hopes of exposing the many pifalls of being a regular joe or jane, to explain, sometimes in the most painful detail, how the street works and in some way repay the public, for some of the wrongs that I have seen and witnessed and to detail how thet can avoid becoming a victim. I wanted people to see that I was for real, and that my entry and exits were for real in each trade and not staged.. I never talked about owning a stock after it had gone up or being short a stock after its drop..I was hoping to bring a new honesty to the internet.One that withstood the test of time..

In that I failed, I let my passions get the best of me, I let my own frailties overcome the goals I had set. I enjoyed these last 9 months..It is really hard to believe it has only been 9 months, it feels as if I have spent a decade here. I have tried to make a difference, and maybe in small way I have ..But ,one thing is certain..Wall Street wont change, and AWall Street Despises a guy like me, because I wouldnt remove the magnifying glass pointed at its ugly head ..

Unless my message is carried out on by each and everyone here, this message may be lost again..spread the message and do not let it fade..Explain and teach what you know to those who who know not, and may those people understand better than those who read this now.

The internet is a powerful place and with it people can be saved and people vcan be destroyed..Apparantly, this message needed to be silenced as it was getting too loud, in this point in time.

I wanted to part and say that my goals havent changed and you dont have to worry about me, I will be around ,,I will be in contact in one way or another maybe not here but I will continue on my work, for I believe that there is no more an honorable way to make a living than by uncovering fraud and scammers..Undoubtedly there will be a dramatic increase in such activity here on SI , since I am banished from this place.

I chose SI, because it had some rules and some structure, I refuse to post on RB or YHOO, and I will never be found there. Anyone there will be fraud. I will not take this oppurtunity to attack anyone at SI, those words have been said, and that fight has been lost..They did what they had to do, and while I cannot change it, I will forever remember it..We all evolve and mature over time, and I am glad that I shared some incredibly joyous moments with thousands of you. and I have the honor and privelege of continuing to work and learn with hundreds of you, I feel sad , yes, but I also believe this is another lesson upon wich to draw some wisdom from. At times ..I have been generous and at times I have been downright ruthless, but never at the expense of my integrity, Keep the thread alive ,in spirit and purpose..and never allow scammers and hypesters and criminals the oppurtunity to fill my void with hot air and false promises..Beware of imposters and those who say they speak on my behalf, they will undoubtedly try to influence those who look to this place for truth and guidance and a willing ear.

I have always tried to answer each and every Pm and post adressed to me , sometimes posting as amny as 300-500 posts in a 2 or 3 day period.. I am sorry to those people taht I will not be able to hear anymore, I am angry at myself for allowing myself to have this happen. Apparantly a bullet has been fired and it appears at this point that it was a fatal shot ..I will accept the decision and move along .

I loved being here for you,

May God Bless you and yours and may peace fall upon you,

Anthony@Pacific

August 27, 1999



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 9:56:00 AM
From: Ben Wa  Respond to of 122087
 
I found the fact that you allowed Daniel Miller, who was clearly making stock recommendations on SI when he was younger than SI's stated age requirement to be curious. I assummed that it was due to a legal entity requesting you to allow him to post. In conducting an investigation, more information about somebody is better than less, and the more somebody posts, the more info to look at. If I were the SEC or NASDR, I would want SI to be as open as possible - and SI would therefore be doing a public service by being as uncensored as possible - perhaps you can explicity add a section in your rules prohibiting advertising competing sites while still allowing people to post links to news related sites?



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 10:19:00 AM
From: Don Green  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
BryanB;

How does it feel to have the power to censure free speech?



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 11:03:00 AM
From: SEAN007  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Dear Bryan A. Burdick,

Re: Anthony

Very poor judgement on your part.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 11:12:00 AM
From: IEarnedIt  Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan. At Least you started out with a statement of fact.

<<I am confident that this post will not win me any popularity points>>

You went rapidly DownHill from there.

<<In fact, in the end, it was our dedication and our obligation to the community that had to be our primary focus>>

Keep it up and soon you'll qualify to sell bridges in Brooklyn.

JD



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 11:44:00 AM
From: WTMHouston  Respond to of 122087
 
Regretable because it appears inconsistent and arbitrary to many, which has been and still is the major complaint about most TOS enforcement decisions; both to act and not to act.

SI, as a business, could do itself a huge favor by finding a way to make TOS enforcement consistently reasonable and reasonably consistent.

That said, I think it was Abe Lincoln who said it best, "You can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but never all of the people all of the time."

Troy

PS - my apologies to old Abe for probably mutilating his quote.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 12:54:00 PM
From: Lonnie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
"Our present problems cannot be solved at the level of thinking at which they were created" Albert Einstein

This is a sad day indeed.
When I first came to SI the company was growing and cared about the posters (that made you multi-millionaires in a few short years). Yes, you had a great idea and a great site, but without us you don't exist!!!
SI used to be much easier to navigate than the other web-sites, had a higher quality of posters, no vulgarity, and listened to what the customers wanted. Now you don't care what we think.
Over time, SI began to be mentioned in articles, on TV, and has now become a common name in most business sections of newspapers.
As with most companies that become successful, you have forgotten who got you there and why you got there. You have butchered the website and now censored one of the most proficient traders you had here.
A lot of threads on your site are snake-pits of touts, shills and stock promotions to the naive investor. The Anthonys, Bill Wexlars, MamaBears, Mr. Pinks, Flodyies, Auric Goldfingers, Janice Shells, etc. are more than ever needed here to keep this place an even playing field.
I don't recall too many "longs" ever posting massive insider selling, previous SEC convictions of insiders, Accounting firms resigning, fraudulent goings-on, etc. etc.
I usually don't see any of the big stock houses down grading stocks until there has been a price decline, of major proportions, that one of the "shorts" on SI has been predicting for days or weeks.
You have now silenced one of the best and most popular voices that was on SI. In doing so you have chased away many others (just as popular) that assisted them in outing the frauds. You have also just helped the touts and shills to continue their lies and deceit to unsuspecting investors.
The Anthony's have saved hundreds of your customers from losing massive amounts of money....if they were wise enough to heed their warnings. It is the touts and shills on the thread that don't want these warnings to be posted. Anyone else would want to hear of possible dangers in losing their hard earned money. Well, now you have just helped some of them achieve their goal. Way to go SI.

In my opinion you are committing one of the most dangerous mistakes in business: ignoring your customers wishes.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 1:46:00 PM
From: Taki  Respond to of 122087
 
BrianB, we all know that you are doing your job here.
I understand your decision to terminate A@P account.
But please if it is possible to give A@P another try.
Please allow him to come back,and if he violates the SI
Terms of Use again, then do what you feel is right for you
to do.
Now we all miss him a big deal, and we feel all very sad.
BrianB, please allow Tony@P to post again.
If you don't, then I will still understand.
I would, and many others would be very happy to see TONY
post again.
A@P, the last four months has mature very much.
He means no harm, and he has a very good heart.
Please Sir, allow him to come back and post again.
TAKI.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 2:20:00 PM
From: Fundamentls  Respond to of 122087
 
Respect it?

Respect, Bryan, is something that has to be earned.

SI has enforced its TOUs selectively, and in my opinion your muzzling of Anthony is simply commercial retaliation against a potential competitor. Your banning of his wife, Mary, is unconscionable, even SI, in its communications to Anthony, did not accuse her of violating SI's TOUs. In fact, in communicating to Anthony about her account at all, SI violated its own stated policy (which you mention in your post) not to discuss one member's account specifics with another. For this you hide behind the lame excuse that it wasn't really Mary's account, she was fronting for Tony.

Mary, like many other friends of Anthony, passed along messages from him, but I saw no evidence that he coerced or even asked her to post. Anyone who has read Anthony's posts know that it was not Anthony who posted them, he can't type that well. If you terminate her, you should terminate all of us who have ever posted anything that any other member has said.

So don't hide behind your TOUs. You don't enforce them consistently enough to deserve that.

Admit the fact that Tony is a threat to you and that's why you banned him, and reinstate Mary, who did absolutely nothing to violate the TOUs, and MAYBE then I'll respect you. Until then, you've got a lot of nerve to even ask.

Fund



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 2:22:00 PM
From: Nazbuster  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Brian,

You speak of integrity while being overly selective in targeting A@P for permanent termination. There are people still posting on SI who have made overt threats to others, used true profanity, and have been unrelentingly abusive to individual posters and the spirit of the threads, even in the face of repeated requests to tone it down. SI did nothing in most cases.

Tony may be emotional, sometimes overzealous or aggressive in his words, but he has never made threats except to defend his honor via legal means. As far as I know, he is the ONLY major thread leader who consistently posted his trades BEFORE making them so all could see his skills as a trader. He has been looking out for all of us, not himself, and has done a damn good job of it. None of his behavior was serious enough an offense for more than a reprimand. Did you seriously think "goatboy" was a termination offense?

I'm truly saddened by SI's choosing to be a censor far and beyond the intended scope of the TOU. If you truly had integrity, you'd recognize this and re-instate him.

P.S. I hardly ever visit SI since being on Anthony's site. Why would I? Almost all of the big names from SI are now members there and are finding it thrilling to be with others of integrity and intelligence.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 2:30:00 PM
From: Glass House  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Thanks for the BS. Why didn't you just suspend him for a month if you really mean what you say. Now you are left with Jenna. Ha, that means the joke is on you. Glass.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 3:38:00 PM
From: NightHawkZ  Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan, Integrity!?...Are you sure you want to fall back on that as your rationale? Stretches your credibility a bit much. This is pretty heavy-handed stuff.

Any thoughts about opening a soup kitchen?

NightHawkZ



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 3:54:00 PM
From: 10K a day  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
That is the Biggest Bunch of Happy Whoreshit I have Read in My entire Life.<g>

God Bless
Jack.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 4:07:00 PM
From: M. Dion  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan......you wrote the following.....

"Dear Anthony@Pacific Fans:
I am confident that this post will not win me any popularity points........

This aint about popularity.....this is about information......and no one provided more than anthony..(Shorting wise)....You know it...or else you never would have written that pathetic get well letter to the thread.....

Its obvious...their was a meeting about anthony....it was decided to bounce him off.....then someone who wasnt at the meeting decided to let him back on.....then the leader of the group said, we made a decision and it looks silly to go back on our word...so he was bounced again.....then his wife came on....and the leader of your pathetic group....said...he cant circumvent us.........so your leader booted his wife......

silicon investor should change its name.......silicon circus......

Anthony brings so much to this and other threads.......sort of like the equalizer........their is room for both of you on each others threads.......do you think he would kick you off of his....for being accurate or for telling people to come to silicon....i dont think so...he welcomes the challenge....

please reinstate him.......show some class...someone please show some class....we have alot to learn from him..

mike



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 4:23:00 PM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik  Respond to of 122087
 
Whether or not you agree with or approve of our decision in this matter, we hope that you will - at least - respect it.

I will respect it in the sense that I respect the sanctity of private property. It is your board, and you have the right to do with it as you see fit. As anything else I might have to say on this topic has already been said, I will leave it at that.

We wish Anthony well in all his future endeavors.

And I, you, in yours.

Good day.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 5:41:00 PM
From: Berney  Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan, I don't particularly consider myself to be an A@P "Fan".

Like many who occasionally review this thread in the SI "community", I came across Anthony on a particular stock thread. My first impression was not positive. However, as events unfolded, I had to admit that he had been correct in his observations and judgement.

At first, when I noted his termination for violating the SI terms of use, I thought it was rather ironic considering how many he had charged with the violation of the terms of use. Then, I decided that I probably should take the time to read, probably for the first time, these rules of engagement.

After doing so, I must wonder if any of us have not violated them on occasion. I particular enjoyed rule B: You agree not to use the service for illegal purposes or for the transmission of material that is unlawful, harassing, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, abusive, threatening, harmful, vulgar, obscene, tortious,
improper or otherwise objectionable, or that infringes or may infringe the intellectual property or other rights of another.


Sure seems like your attorney had some fun. Nevertheless, this sentence is the core of the problem many are having as we ponder our involvement in this "community". Do we really want to participate in a community, where a machiavellian despot can eliminate our presence with a few strokes of the keyboard, without regard to the desires of other members of the community, when the rules are so vague as to be meaningless, and their uniform enforcement is suspect? Clearly, it is a complex issue throughout the communities in which we live, work, and play.

I urge you to again reconsider your decision on the termination of Anthony from this community. His views and vision add much to the principal purpose of this community -- investing.

Berney



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 6:04:00 PM
From: Bill27  Respond to of 122087
 
Very Disappointed in Silicon Investor . Anthony really has helped me a great deal in understanding all of the inner workings of the market place . I am a new trader a new friend to Anthony . He helped me as if we had known each other for years . What a big heart. He will be missed greatly here at SI. I feel very sad that some newbie will not have the opportunity to learn from him like I have .

Bill



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 6:37:00 PM
From: RuIrish57  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
If I had known how unfair si was I would have never joined. A&P has only stopped others and I from losing thousands of dollars by bringing forward the truth. Who is going to help the newbie and others now, SI,MR MILLER or YOU. I've always wondered how low life will take us thank you for helping us hit bottom.

IRISH



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 6:49:00 PM
From: BigTex  Respond to of 122087
 
Bad deal,gonna miss A@P!!!



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 7:32:00 PM
From: rogermci®  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
Dear Sir, Mr. Managing Director, Mr. Bigshot, Mr Wharton MBA,

I'm really impressed with your credentials, too bad you have none when it comes to investing. As someone with 26 years in the investing business, 21 of those professionally, I'm saddened to see Anthony banned from SI.

I have known of Anthony for 2 1/2 years, and known him personally for the last 9 months as a frequent poster on his thread. Although I don't always agree with or how he says what he says, I can honestly say he has helped many more people then you might think. And, he has helped people in other positive ways such as his humanitarian efforts to help the less fortunate. Although, you couldn't give a rat's a$$ one way or the other as to whether this is fact, is probably immaterial to my comments.

How you can state that suspending Anthony is your obligation to the community is pure bull$h!t and absolutely an irresponsible opinion on your part. Why don't you just admit that whether investors glean both sides of a story before they make a decision to throw money at stocks really isn't part of your mission. That your only mission is to further your interests as a money making operation (or in your case a money losing proposition)

Your decision was short term motivated and will come back to haunt you long term. There's an old saying in the investment business: "What comes around goes around" and you will one day find out what this means. I'm not going to threaten you with a please cancel my membership plea as this means nothing to people such as yourself. The laws of the universe will work their ways and do the dirty work for me.

Roger McIntyre



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/28/1999 8:45:00 PM
From: thecow  Respond to of 122087
 
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To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 12:23:00 AM
From: coydogbark  Respond to of 122087
 
To Bryan B

Dear Sir:

In response to your letter of termination of Mr.Elgindy.
Do you not think that you would be earning more respect from the investing community, the respect that you are asking for, by stating the exact cause of termination.
Sir you are simply adding fuel to the already blazing fire,
by simply refusing to respond to any questions. Is Mr.Elgindy held to a higher standard than other members who have had infractions and have not been terminated?

Mr. Elgindy has done so much for so many people, do you not think he deserves reconsideration. Sir your Integrity and price tag would go up in value if the questions from the investing community would be addressed.

Respect Sir is earned and you would be earning my respect by addressing the questions in my letter. Let us not forget that in the end the truth will forever prevail,and that if we are not just with one another, the Laws of Nature will forever work against us.

I have joined Anthony's Private Web Site and I post there as "BEN".



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 2:02:00 AM
From: Smilodon  Respond to of 122087
 
BS



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 2:26:00 AM
From: Brasco One  Respond to of 122087
 
hey bryan, why not suspend hypesters like $mogul and other lemmings. It seems you guys want only hypesters hyping your boards. a@p was one of the only few sensible people here. a@p thought a lot to many people here. he was/is very valuable to all of us.

a@p's all time fan,

Don.

shorting gnet first thing monday morning.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 9:45:00 AM
From: Janice Shell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
I can only say I'm deeply disappointed. Who'll be next?



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 10:32:00 AM
From: Edwarda  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
I have never been a fan of Anthony's--at times, I have wished to slap him, in fact. However, his termination makes me wonder about the consistency of the application of terms of use, particularly as he apparently has proven of interest and use to so many investors. Meanwhile, we have hypsters and downright loonies wandering around the various threads.

Although I respect your policy of not discussing member account specifics, his termination without explanation must make all of us uneasy as to which of us is next.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 11:37:00 AM
From: K A Anderson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
I have never posted on the A@P thread, but do feel you guys at SI have made a huge blunder. One that should be inconceivable for an internet company. One time Silicon Investor was cutting edge information, a truly needed information medium for investors. (in the pre GNET days.) SI made an effort to give investors a forum to exchange ideas, thoughts, educate, enrage, disagree, motivate or just judge the validity of any given post on any given subject. A@P did that, maybe it was his style that turned off many people... but IF you could look past that you could probably find a lot of merit in his posts.

Much of the things A@P had to say was not things the powers to be of Wall Street really wanted the investment world to be educated about. A@P was not always right, but more times than not, he was pretty close to the target. Why I know? Because I too, spent about a decade in Wall Street and the Jersey City financial districts. This is probably the first time I have ever publicly posted this and the last. The reason I am now is because, I understood A@P's motives in many cases. Maybe the power your own forum scares your Board of Directors, maybe they don't know how to use it, maybe they just dont want the problems associated with it, maybe undo pressure from Wall Street . But one thing for sure if you do not do it someone else will. GNET may find itself mayor of a cyber ghost town, akin to the gold rush days when the mine played out. Except SI was not mining minerals they were mining information.

Now I will tell you a little story about the pre GNET days of SI, once upon a time I and a group of investors found ourselves invested in a little OTC company that was so screwed up and the losses were happening so fast on a daily basis, many of us could not find the exit fast enough, with out paying a xxx% admission to leave this investment, which many of these investors could not afford to pay. (Yes sometimes even the most experienced investors find themselves blind sided.) But thanks to the pre- GNET SI giving us the medium, we were able to mount some defensive measures and eventually a hostile take over of that company? and to this day I am still the CEO of that little company. I wont name it (TOU spamming ya know).

Maybe this was a fluke maybe it was an exercise into the power of information and of the internet and SI provided at one time. But I always felt that if A@P or Janice Shell and some of the other prolific posters kept a series of checks and balances on some of the more questionable investment opportunities. Does that sound odd for an OTC CEO to make such a statement??? Not if you are trying to run an honest business, but if you are looking to hurt the public investors... look out. Personally I do not think they are the cyber vendetta many try to portray them as. I also think you guys are caving into the objectiveness contained in informational posts, that will be lost if a person can only post nicey nice positive things about any given company.

Feel free to pull this post, ban me or whatever, it does not really matter because I think you will find out the information mine SI once tapped is starting to peter out.

Good luck to A@P... and if investors seek it dont deny them your thoughts.

KAA




To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 3:01:00 PM
From: ACS_101  Respond to of 122087
 
BryanB,

Add my voice to the chorus of protesters who see through the transparent charade of your sanctimonious, self-serving rationale for terminating Anthony@Pacific. I cannot describe it other than "pure BS".

This controversy actually prompted me to read your terms of use, which I commend to your immediate and serious consideration:

You agree not to use the service for illegal purposes or for the transmission of material that is unlawful, harassing, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, abusive, threatening, harmful, vulgar, obscene, tortious, improper or otherwise objectionable, or that infringes or may infringe the intellectual property or other rights of another.

SI is literally crawling with paid touts and company insiders who benefit financially by inducing others to buy fraudulent and/or unconscionably overvalued securities. You tolerate documented cases of minors engaging in the illegal practice of frontrunning stocks. You tolerate numerous users of this site who promote subscription services elsewhere. You tolerate threatening, harmful, vulgar, obscene language that I would be embarrassed for any of my family or friends to see. I know because I have received plenty as unsolicited responses to my occasional posts.

If you wish to enforce your terms of use you have the power to do so, but over the 6 months of my membership here, you have never expended any consistent effort to do so. I also have no doubt that if you had wished Anthony to adhere more strictly to those terms of use, you had every opportunity to request of him to do so without permanently banning his valued voice from this site.

It is totally obvious that you justifications are a lie, and your decision reflects your desire to protect your pocketbook, not "your community", whatever you think that is. This action is selective, arbitrary, irrational, inconsistent, and thinly cloaks your real motive.

"True integrity has no price tag" -- indeed. You have qualified yourself as having utterly nothing to say in this regard.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 8:37:00 PM
From: DAY TRADER  Respond to of 122087
 
You did the right thing Bryan

I am behind your decision 100%, as I am one person

who was needlessly subjected to Anthony's personal

attacks. I think he deserved what he got. As he clearly

violated SI's TOS repeatly. No one is above the community!

DT



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 9:13:00 PM
From: robnhood  Respond to of 122087
 
This reminds me of the BRE.X thread where you consistently suspended the nay sayers while never ever touching the blatant touts..
I didn't really follow Anthony , .. I sort of wondered about his do gooder thing, but I don't wonder about S.I's motivations anymore...

Let me see now---- SI rules----

#1 You must be a Bull on stocks...

#2
Bullish on religion is good
#3 Bullish on America is a definite plus.
#4 Political correctness ranks right up there...



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 9:43:00 PM
From: BG Smith  Respond to of 122087
 
Bad decision followed by a pathetic attempt to cya.

I'd call you disingenuous, but I don't want to insult or harass all the other disingenuous people.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 9:59:00 PM
From: robnhood  Respond to of 122087
 
Jeez,, I've never seen a post that had so many responses--- You could put that on your hot list---- Most responded to post....ceptin o'course youse always gonna win it.
PS; You guys owe me a T- shirt, from the bre.x days...Yes ,, from a real phone call it was promised.. I won't say her name,,, but it begins with J....
BTW,, I still like her anyway..



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)8/29/1999 11:16:00 PM
From: Harpo  Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan, you did a baaaad thing...

But, congratulations anyway on making SI #2.

regards,
Harpo



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)9/5/1999 12:59:00 AM
From: summerboy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan, you clearly need to get a grip, or just don't care about the innocent investor, or both.



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)9/6/1999 2:23:00 AM
From: thumbelina  Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan,

Sorry but I don't think anyone really buys that.

Anthony speaks the truth and a lot of members want to hear what he has to say, myself included. I have learned a lot by listening to Anthony and he went out of his way to help me and numerous others when he had no obligation whatsoever to do so.

You are doing SI a disservice imo - this forum is supposed to be all about presenting differing opinions and you have taken away his right to do so. Yes he can be controversial but without him SI becomes a much less interesting place. It truly is your loss, if you ask me you're lucky he still wants to post here since he has a successful website of his own.

I sincerely hope you reconsider your decision.

Caroline



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)9/7/1999 12:28:00 PM
From: bargainman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan -- I see your dilemma and why Anthony was worthy of being considered for a possible exception to the SI terms of use. But I respect your determination to make the rules stick regardless. That clearly differentiates SI from other far less disciplined boards. -- Regards, bargainman



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)9/7/1999 6:54:00 PM
From: moby_dick  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 122087
 
BryanB - I respect your opinion but disagree earnestly. Please tell me how I can discontinue my SI subscription. The value-add I received from SI was primarily through the A@P thread and his exposure of overvalued and scam stocks. It is truly disappointing to see SI throw A@P off the site when there are many, many others here who pump up share values and sell - many times leaving the small investor holding the bag. A@P had provided some semblence of balance in that respect. Without the A@P resource, I am wasting my money and time here. This is strictly my opinion, however. I look forward to hearing back from you.

Respectfully yours,
moby_dick



To: BryanB who wrote (43473)9/8/1999 2:22:00 AM
From: A@P Trader  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 122087
 
Bryan,

Dude I gotta tell you, you guys made one of the biggest mistakes you ever made not only did you kick out one of the best sources of Info on the net but a guy who did it because he loved doing it and although he has a private site he often came here to help those who dont want to pay or those who couldnt pay. He is the only one who ever stated for a fact that Iridium would go BK, and that people should get out when it was at 6, he is the one who nailed SKYM and DBCC,and Starnet, and countless others and he did it for free here on SI. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. He was way too good for SI, but for whatever reason he chose it as his own place to share his knowledge,you guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.
I know he is short GNET stock,and making lots of money as it slowly melts because it is a poor business model but then again, Your recent decisons havent shown very much thought.

Go ahead and do the right thing . Kicking Tokyo Joe was because he was a criminal who ripped off thousand of people and I'm sure the legal liability isnt one you cared to argue, but A@P was a guy who could be counted on to call a spade a spade.

I'm not gonna post on here much more , there is no value on SI anymore , just a bunch of dumb banner ads and undisclosed conflicts around here. But the following is my last post before this one . It kinda sums up how I feel.

I will always be found at anthonypacific.com home of the most honest guy on Wall Street.

( by the way whats her face is mentioned and I couldn't care less about your special relationship with her )

Here it is.

To be honest with everyone , I find SI very boring and devoid of any real value, when Anthony was posting I liked reading it but now it is all garbage, I joined in the hopes of helping out carry his message but without him, it is almost like hitting my head against a wall. These people knew he was trustworthy and knew that if he was after some stock, he had damn good reasons and would eventually prevail. I cannot possibly pick up where he left off nor am I able to fill his shoes. He had one hell of a way to do his thing and I have never seen better. Anthony , my hat's off to you good buddy. You be da "man".

If anyone needs me , I'll be around but Until SI does the right thing , this place will be nothing more than a big giant commercial for criminals and I advise everyone to immediately dismiss everything posted on every other thread as we all do on yahoo and raging BS, SI is no better now.
It absolutely sucks and so does their stock. Maybe I'll get terminated for being A@P's friend and for voicing my opinion but for now, It absolutely sucks! Down with SI and their censorship tactics. Isnt it amazing that whats her face talks in code on her site and the only way to understand any of it is if you pony up a few bucks and pay her. What a joke.


Shame on you all!

Lou