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Pastimes : The Truth about Waco -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jjs_ynot who wrote (88)	8/29/1999 1:03:00 AM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1449

I was out to sea when the Randy Weaver episode happened and only caught some re-runs. But what I saw looked rough, I mean if I saw right an agent shot an unarmed women holding a baby in her arms right between the eyes, and they tried to pass it off as an accident ? I think he won the wrongful death case but that don't bring back what he lost. Nothing will bring back all those children that were burned up in that fire at Mt Carmel, but if we as a nation let it die in a big lie ( one that Reno wants us to believe) then all the children died in vain. On top of that I will repeat.." some of those agents who were killed may have been fragged by an inner loop." ---------------- She is the Attorney General of The U.S. and now says she wants to get at the bottom of this , But she can't believe this or that well maybe she needs to disqualify herself as it's obvious she is very biased, and that's not an attitude the Chief A.G, should be holding. No way we can get even close to an honest investigation as long as she is Attorney General it just won't happen. --------- The courts I think found in favor of the Randy Weaver case, but this Waco thing is still a big pack of festering puss and will not go away. The government is going to have to do something other than try to lie it's way out of this one. I know this sounds far fetched but "Remember Waco" just might replace "remember the Alamo" there are forces at work that Reno can't seem to comprehend if she could there never would have been tanks used, that was just flat out the most stupid thing they could have done. Films of those tanks bashing down taht flimsy wooden building went around the world, they kept calling it a compound as if it were a fortress as if no one could see what it was. ------------------ In the first staged senate hearings she said "it wasn't a military operation of any type you could call as in a war. " or something to that effect ( I have the tape and about 60hrs of tapes on this fiasco ) I wrote her and said by that do you mean we didn't use any cruse missiles on them. Jim

To: jjs_ynot who wrote (88)	8/29/1999 10:38:00 AM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1449

<<Message #88 from dave_s at Aug 28 1999 9:19PM What do you think of the Randy Weaver episode in UTAH? >> I believe if you check back it was ID, but regardless, Weever was wronged by Reno/ Clinton.. Yes, many of Weever's beliefs were ugly stupid racist tripe, but he was doing nothing "wrong" until the government decided they had to begin a war against thought. "... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, see Jefferson On Democracy, 20 (S. Padover ed. 1939). schober.org