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To: Dan3 who wrote (28118)	8/30/1999 4:19:00 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Another protocol-based RAM design, SLDRAM (synchronous-link DRAM), is available as a royalty-free open standard. SLDRAM can operate at up to 400MHz today and may go faster in the future. dan, that one sentence destroys the entire credibility of the story and the author. approx two months ago the ceo of sony declared sldram and ddrdram unstable and said sony would not use it. he further stated that sony will use rambus rdram. at the time the sldram consortium had 17 members. two or three days after the sony statement the sldram consortium folded. unclewest

To: Dan3 who wrote (28118)	8/30/1999 4:20:00 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Dan, I thought SLDRAM was dropped by its proponents. This article makes almost no sense to me. Sounds like one guy who wants a cheap solution...and, of course, he has no benchmarking data yet either. So, what is he talking about? I doubt if he has run anything on a Rambus platform. He is in the physics department? Give me a break. Is he one of these flatworlders? I do love the comment about Intel "foisting" RDRAM on us. Foist away!

To: Dan3 who wrote (28118)	8/30/1999 4:56:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Chris Boynton is obviously part of the anti-Rambus coalition, which is why I consider his comments to be highly subjective. What hinted me was the blurb on SLDRAM, a technology that used to be the unofficial "Anything But Rambus" DRAM technology. Then SLDRAM support was dropped, and the anti-Rambus people are now rallying around DDR SDRAM. And in the ZDNet article, Mr. Boynton himself is recommending DDR SDRAM! Coincidence? Mr Boynton said, "Double-data-rate SDRAM with a 133MHz memory bus would be a far better solution at the moment. I only hope Intel stops foisting RDRAM on us before we can benefit from it, and supports DSDRAM as soon as possible." As usual, we don't hear any reasons why DDR SDRAM is considered "a far better solution at the moment." Yet we do hear the regular "Intel is a monopoly" rhetoric that anti-Rambus people are fond of spreading. Can this guy be any more overt? Tenchusatsu

To: Dan3 who wrote (28118)	8/30/1999 8:56:00 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

On a more technical note, Chris Boynton, from the University of Miami's physics department dan, i live near miami. a little research seemed in order. boynton is a professor of astrophysics. kind of misleading again for the article to call him a physicist. did our stargazer start the God portion of the discussion earlier today? what qualifications might he have to evaluate computer memories? unclewest i keep checking out the fud and it keeps leading to dead ends. am i missing something?

To: Dan3 who wrote (28118)	8/31/1999 7:15:00 AM
From: John Walliker	Respond to of 93625

Dan3 Boynton's point is well-taken. RDRAM, also known as DRDRAM, is a protocol-based design that intermixes data and addresses on a single bus. The bus is faster, but it incurs higher overhead and is limited somewhat by its narrow width. The higher speeds also make board layout more critical. I find it hard to attach any credibility to this report when the most basic facts are wrong. DRDRAM uses separate address and data buses as described in numerous links posted on this thread. John