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To: epicure who wrote (53559)	8/30/1999 8:13:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<< to blame the people who simply watch the true believers fomenting their irrational movements is pretty much a case of blaming the victim.>>> I'm thinking, for example, of the "good Germans" as being the moderates. They weren't "true believers" in something it would have been, well, helpful for them have been. Instead of "simply watching." And they weren't the "victims," except possibly of a bit of discomfiture.

To: epicure who wrote (53559)	8/31/1999 2:58:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<<Of course there are true believers and you are correct that it is frequently necessary to rise up and be militant in order to stop them- they are the ones who create the dangerous "Zeitgeist" you speak of,>>> Of course, everyone thinks their position is the one the opposition to which is extremist. I think this fact about human nature creates one of the problems with this conversation, and is why I wrote, <<<I think the crucial distinction between the dangerous and the undangerous is not the degree of intensity of belief, but the degree of commitment to the idea that free discourse and civil argument can, over time, lead to compromises or solutions that can be lived with by all parties.>>>