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To: Dayuhan who wrote (53592)8/31/1999 2:15:00 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I am a judge. You get divorced. I require that you pay child support. You have done nothing wrong, but I have imposed an obligation upon you, as a legal matter, falling out of the moral obligation towards your children. Is that wrong?....I am a legislature. I enact a law requiring that you go for emissions testing once every two years, to ensure that your vehicle is not unduly polluting. There was no prior bad act. In fact, it is not demonstrable that there is anything wrong with your car. The law merely imposes an obligation to cooperate in the effort to monitor emissions. Is that wrong?...I am a teacher. I give you an assignment in class. If you do not do it, you will have to suffer a lower grade. I have imposed a standard of behavior, not because of a prior bad act, but in the discharge of my teaching duty, and attached potentially serious consequences to the failure to perform. Is this wrong?....



To: Dayuhan who wrote (53592)8/31/1999 8:29:00 PM
From: E  Respond to of 108807
 
<<<There is a difference between opposition and imposition. One defines an existing act as unacceptable and demands that it be ceased, or rescinded, or not repeated, [the other] one requires that an act be committed.>>>

(Hope it's okay that I stuck "the other" in to make the meaning clearer; it stymied me for a second or two.)

You seem to be saying here that if you are in the "imposition" mode, you're a true believer; if you are merely in "opposition" mode, you are moderate.

In the real world, the opposition "rescinding" may perfectly well require that an act be committed every bit as actively as the original "imposing" did.

What is the chicken and what the egg is not always perfectly clear. Though it is likely to feel perfectly clear to both sides in any dispute-- each will feel it to be defending itself from unjust impositions, acts that have been committed against it. "He hit me back first" is heard in nursery schools daily.