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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (273)	8/31/1999 11:35:00 PM
From: Jeff Mizer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1449

Charles- Thanks for the Garret quote... really depressed now... This darn Waco thread has brought back such bad memories from 93 when I lost my patriotism and opened my eyes. You know it really is very similar to when you open your eyes to Christianity-- you cannot for the life of you understand how come you didn't see it sooner-- it seems so obvious. lol The frustrating thing Charles is its not like the nation is divided and our voices can make a differance-- the cause is lost - liberty in the shape of Constitutional republic with God and individual rights will never return to US soil. Charles-- if only slick had been impeached and the nation told that honor and character do count, the court system upheld etc., the people risen up and driven him from office in shame - if only that had occurred I could have some hope. Just think how the next evil one who may be even worse than this one will know he can get away with anything --unless maybe and just maybe somehow a scandal so big will break someday and a non-elite populist person will sweep into power and use the bully pulpit to change things-- but it seems too much to hope for since so few people are aware how corrupt the system is-- the status quo seems entrenched... the Indians have a better chance of reclaiming Manhatten Find me hope Charles...... throw me a life raft. JM

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (273)	9/1/1999 3:45:00 PM
From: freeus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1449

reyet never has it been put to a vote of the people I disagree. In the U.S. at least it is constantly put to the vote of the people: "Do you want your empire or do you want a constitutional govt back?" They consistently vote for the empire...FDR elected FOUR times, Clinton elected and reelected in spite of lies, treachary, personal shame, and hypocrisy. Newt Gingrich, and his "contract with America" down the drain because Gingrich and the Repub...then with the voting power....were terrified that the American people did not really stand behind him for limited government. Was he right? I dont know, but the people have had plenty of opportunity to turn this evil empire back and instead just reelect it. I thought when the Repub were elected (the 104th congress) there would be a turnaround...my Libertarian friends said "You are naive" They were right. Freeus A Libertarian too. 100% pro choice on everything 100% pro Constitution.