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To: MNI who wrote (14277)9/2/1999 10:45:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
You once asked me when Carrington said what he said...the answer is August 27th...here is the whole article

Bombing Serbia made things
much worse, says Carrington
======================

By Robert Shrimsley,
Chief Political Correspondent

Friday 27 August 1999
The Telegraph
telegraph.co.uk

NATO'S strategy of bombing Serbia during the Kosovo conflict
prompted rather than prevented ethnic cleansing, Lord Carrington,
the former Foreign Secretary, said yesterday.

The bombing had "made things very much worse", he said, and the
European Union had made some "catastrophically stupid decisions"
in its diplomacy in the Balkans.

"I think what Nato did by bombing Serbia actually precipitated
the exodus of the Kosovo Albanians into [FYR] Macedonia and
Montenegro. I think the bombing did cause ethnic cleansing." Lord
Carrington, a former secretary general of Nato, said that the
circumstances had now been reversed because "the Serbs are being
cleared out [of Kosovo].... I think it is a great mistake to
intervene in a civil war."

He also denounced the way Slobodan Milosevic had been declared a
war criminal, saying that Britain was "a little bit selective
about condemnation of ethnic cleansing, in Africa as well as in
Europe. He said: "I do not think he is any more a war criminal
than President Tudjman of Croatia, who ethnically cleansed
200,000 Serbs out of Krajina. Nobody kicked up a fuss about
that."

Lord Carrington said that for most of this decade the "whole
business in the Balkans has been mismanaged". He added: "I am not
sticking up for the Serbs, because I think they behaved badly and
extremely stupidly by removing the autonomy of Kosovo, given them
by Tito in the first place. But I think that what we did made
things very much worse and that what we are now faced with is a
sort of ethnic cleansing in reverse."




To: MNI who wrote (14277)9/2/1999 10:47:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
wow...it looks like those mass graves can contain Serb bodies too...despite Nato's efforts to make them Albanian<g>

BELGRADE, Yugoslavia, Aug. 27 (UPI) -- A new mass grave with 50 bodies
of murdered Serbs has been discovered near Gnjilane, the Yugoslav state-
run news agency Tanjug reported.
Tanjug said today that an unnamed police officer told a gathering of
Serbs in Gnjilane late on Thursday about the grave but did not specify
where the bodies were found.
He was reported by Tanjug to have promised the relatives of kidnapped
and missing Serbs that a comprehensive investigation and the
identification of bodies would be carried out shortly.
Meanwhile, Zivorad Igic, head of a leading Serbian political party,
said the recent discovery some 15 murdered Serbs at Ugljare was evidence
international peacekeepers' indifference to the security concerns of
Serbs.
In a television interview Igic said, ''Albanian separatists and
terrorists from Kosovo and their bandit compatriots from Albania have
committed so many crimes against Serbs, Montenegrins and other citizens.
'' He called for the return of Serbian security forces in Kosovo to
protect the remaining Serbs.
In Pristina, several thousand Albanians protested on the streets
today demanding the release of Kosovo Albanians jailed in Serbia. The U.
N. civilian mission chief, Bernard Kouchner, and Kosovar Albanian leader
Hashim Thaci spoke at the protest. Albanian sources say some 7,000
Kosovar Albanians were missing since NATO began its bombing campaign.
Many are believed to be in held in Serbian prisons.
In Belgrade, Yugoslav Justice Minister Petar Jojic, a member of the
extreme nationalist Radical Party, has called for the replacement of
Kouchner for acting outside his authority.
Jojic also said that the worst security situation in the world had
prevailed in Kosovo since international forces arrived.
''What has been created is chaos and bewailing and no law, and order
has been established. Our army and police would establish this state of
affairs in five days and ensure normal conditions of life and enjoyment
of equal rights for all citizens,'' Jojic said.

BELGRADE, Yugoslavia, Aug. 26 (UPI) -- Yugoslav Foreign Minister
Zivadin Jovanovic is accusing U.S. KFOR forces of trying to cover up the
discovery of a mass grave containing the bodies of ethnic Serbs in
Kosovo and demanded an urgent meeting of the U.N. Security Council.
Jovanovic said in letters to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and
the Security Council Wednesday that U.S. peacekeepers had tried to
conceal the mass grave found at the village of Ugljare as long ago as
July 24.
He claimed they did so in order to avoid the reaction of
international public opinion that ''this crime against humanity'' might
provoke as it took place only a day after the massacre of 14 Serb
farmers at Staro Gradsko. The letter was released by the Yugoslav
foreign ministry and published Thursday by Belgrade media.
A statement issued later today by the NATO press office in Pristina
said a U.S. patrol found the gravesite July 24 and the discovery was
reported the next day to the International Crime Tribunal for the former
Yugoslavia, which conducted an investigation Aug. 8-11.
A United Nations police spokesman in Gnjilane was reported by
Yugoslav state-run media as saying that 13 bodies of Serbs had been laid
out in a chapel in the town but he did not say where the bodies had been
found.
The media said the bodies had been brought from Ugljare, six miles
east of Gnjilane, and that four bodies had been identified.
KFOR spokesman in Pristina, Maj. Roland Lavoie, told Belgrade Radio
B2-92 that war crimes tribunal investigators had examined the Ugljare
grave where 11 bodies had been dug up, four of which identified as those
of killed Serbs. The spokesman also said the investigators would
establish the identities of the other bodies, the circumstances of their
death and whether there were more bodies in the grave.
Serbian Orthodox Church sources in Kosovo are reported by Radio B2-92
today to have said two ethnic Serbs and three Gypsies had been killed in
the western town of Prizren and that 12 Gypsies and two Serbs, both from
Tetovo in [FYR] Macedonia, had been kidnapped in the village of Ljutoglav
since Tuesday.
News agency Beta quoted church sources as saying about 10 Albanians,
armed with automatic weapons and hand-held rocket launchers, attacked
and beat four ethnic Serb shepherds at the village of Pasjane, near
Gnjilane.
Some Russian KFOR peacekeepers who came to the shepherds' rescue were
fired on by the Albanians and withdrew to seek help from American KFOR
forces after an explosion believed to have been caused by a missile.




To: MNI who wrote (14277)9/2/1999 10:55:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Some are still crying to get their bills paid...

The Washington Post

By Alison Mutler
Associated Press Writer
Friday, August 27, 1999; 1:15 a.m. EDT

BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) -- After strongly supporting NATO's bombing
campaign against Yugoslavia, countries of the southern Balkans are
anxiously awaiting tangible rewards from the United States and Western
Europe.

During the 78-day air campaign, traditionally isolated countries such
as Bulgaria, Romania and Macedonia, which border Yugoslavia, were on
the diplomatic center stage.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright and NATO's supreme allied commander, Gen. Wesley Clark, all
came calling to urge governments in the former communist countries to
stand with the West, despite public sympathy for the Serbs, who share
their Orthodox cultural traditions.

Now that the bombing is over, however, southern Balkan states fear
they will be forgotten, left even poorer and more isolated by the NATO
campaign. And Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic is still in power.

''There is great apathy in the region,'' said Adrian Nastase, a
leading member of Romania's opposition. ''The feeling is that the West
has abandoned this area, leaving it prey to internal machinations and
its own conflicts.''

Support for NATO among southern Balkan countries went beyond rhetoric.
Romania and Bulgaria allowed NATO to use their airspace to attack
Yugoslavia. Macedonia served as a staging area for Western ground
forces who are now in Kosovo under the June peace deal.

That support carried a price. At least seven NATO missiles strayed
over the border into Bulgaria, one of which damaged a house on the
edge of the capital, Sofia.

Key parts of the Danube River, a major trade artery to Western Europe,
remain unnavigable after NATO destroyed bridges in Yugoslavia.
Romania's government said the airstrikes cost the country $1 billion
in lost business, and Bulgaria claims $100 million in lost trade.

Last month, President Clinton and leaders of about 40 other nations
endorsed a Balkan Stability Pact aimed at promoting economic
development and democracy in the region. So far, however, only the
United States has committed any funds to the project.

''It is inconceivable that in the east, (Western nations) could spend
$20 billion on two months of war, but they cannot find $2 billion to
consolidate the peace,'' the Bucharest newspaper Adevarul said.

Meanwhile, Romania and Bulgaria are still paying the price for their
support.

Ship owners in the two countries lost tens of millions of dollars
because the air campaign cut off shipping along the Danube. Now,
Romanian ship owners claim the Serbs are refusing to let Bulgarian and
Romanian ships use an alternate channel that bypasses an area of the
river blocked by destroyed bridges.

Russia and Ukraine, which opposed NATO airstrikes, freely sail along
the narrow stretch of water, according to Mircea Toader, deputy head
of the Association of Romanian ship owners and port operators.

In July, one month after the bombing campaign ended, Romanian
President Emil Constantinescu criticized Western leaders for a
''double-standard treatment'' of his country.

''Every day a prominent NATO or European Union leader comes to visit
us in Bucharest to praise Romania's behavior during the conflict,'' he
said. ''We ask ourselves, who is the one punished now?''

Since then, Constantinescu has toned down the rhetoric. Both he and
Bulgarian President Petar Stoyanov are anxious to join NATO and the
European Union and want to avoid open criticism.

Blair promised to support Romania's EU aspirations. But some people in
this southeast European nation of 23 million are skeptical. Balkan
countries historically see themselves as pawns in the hands of the
world's powers.

''I am not disappointed by the West because Romania isn't, wasn't and
never will be helped by another state'' said Nicolae Habagiu, 45.





To: MNI who wrote (14277)9/2/1999 10:59:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Respond to of 17770
 
Must read

Making the news
=============

Western war reporting is selective and the
real stories of the Kosovan crisis remain
largely untold

John Pilger
Tuesday August 24, 1999
The Guardian
newsunlimited.co.uk

Last week, 14 members of the same Iraqi family were reportedly
killed when their house was hit by a missile. There were no
military installations nearby. On August 11, an unconfirmed
number of people died when a 4th-century Christian monastery
was bombed as they gathered to watch the solar eclipse.
In May, a friend travelling in northern Iraq came upon the
remains of a flock of sheep with blast injuries. A shepherd
and his family of six had been bombed to death on one day,
his sheep the next. Apart from a news-in-brief item in the
Guardian, this was not news in Britain.

Such acts of murder are routine, carried out by US and British
pilots over Iraq. "We do not target civilians" and "pilots are
defending themselves", say the foreign office. It is a deceit
reminiscent of the long-running lie that Hawk aircraft were not
operating in East Timor. Mostly, lying is unnecessary, as Orwell
pointed out in the preface to Animal Farm, when "inconvenient
facts [are] kept dark". A recent Unicef report that child deaths
in Iraq had doubled to half a million briefly broke the silence,
presumably because it was "measured" - that is, it usefully
shifted the blame a few centimetres from the Anglo-American-led
sanctions to the Iraqi regime.

Numerous other studies on the suffering of the civilian
population of Iraq have been ignored or buried. A Unicef report
in 1997, which left no doubt that the malnourishment of a million
children was caused by "the impact of sanctions", was confined
largely to an article in the Economist. In 1995, the UN Food and
Agricultural Organisation concluded that "the moral, financial
and political standing of the international community intent on
maintaining economic sanctions is challenged by the estimate
that since August 1990, 567,000 children in Iraq have died as
a consequence." That is four times the number of children who
died at Hiroshima.

According to the Guardian's data base, it was reported in two
paragraphs in this newspaper and the Times, and in one sentence
in the Financial Times. There was no political debate, and there
is none now. The prime minister is never required to defend
policies which, by the definition of various international
conventions, are genocidal.

Unpeople are a common phenomenon in the media age.
Victims are deemed worthy or unworthy, depending on the
degree of western culpability. Since the "just war" in the
Balkans, more than 170,000 Serbs have been "ethnically
cleansed" from their homes in Kosovo in the same way that
ethnic Albanians were driven out.

This is equal to the number of Serbs forced out of Krajina seven
years ago by the Croatian regime and its US state department
backers. Many Serbs fleeing Kosovo are survivors of the Krajina
atrocity. Now they are as much victims of Nato's ethnic hate
campaign as they are of Albanian gangs, whose intimidation
and murder extends to Montenegrins and Roma.

Is this news? Sort of. Several exceptional pieces of reporting
come to mind. Otherwise, it is well on the way to news-in-brief.
The drum-beaters are long silent, having testily assured the
prime minister's press spokesman that they did as good a job
of propaganda as he did.

Silent, too, is the effete bomber himself, whose "moral crusade"
was dutifully elevated from the crapulous to every front page and
BBC bulletin and whose "new internationalism where the brutal
repression of whole ethnic groups will no longer be tolerated" is
now revealed to be fake as Nato presides over precisely that
repression in Kosovo.

The truth behind all this, which Harold Pinter calls "the depth
of shame", is that untold thousands of innocent Serbs and ethnic
Albanians, victims of Nato's "war," would be alive today had
western leaders pursued three outstanding opportunities for
peace. Two were at the Rambouillet talks: in February when Robin
Cook boasted to parliament of agreement on 90% of peace terms
which the Serbs were prepared to sign, then in March, when the
Serbs were again willing to sign - until a secret appendix was
handed to them on the last day, demanding, in effect, they
surrender all of Yugoslavia to Nato's occupation.

On top of this, the elected Yugoslav parliament, on March 23,
called on the UN to negotiate a diplomatic solution leading
"toward the reaching of a political agreement on a wide- ranging
autonomy for Kosovo." Almost all of this remains unknown to the
British public. Neither was the complete list of Nato targets hit
ever published or broadcast. This shows not "blunders" but an
unmistakable pattern of civilian terrorism: hospitals, schools,
nurseries, housing estates, power sources, markets, farms,
churches, monasteries, against which horrific "anti-personnel "
cluster bombs were used.

A group of prominent international lawyers argue that if the
recent indictment of Slobodan Milosevic is to be credible, not
merely victor's justice, then the evidence against all prima
facie war criminals should be heard. They have prepared a
compelling indictment of Nato's leaders, including Blair,
Robertson and Cook. That is the news.