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To: jmac who wrote (39612)9/2/1999 10:34:00 PM
From: Jon Koplik  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
John Liscio's "take" on Fed / Jackson Hole speech stuff.

WHEN BAD REPORTING MEETS THIN MARKETS

I spent the weekend pouring over at least two dozen accounts of
Greenspan's Friday speech at Jackson Hole and came away with one
overwhelming impression:

The journalistic and analytical community must have heard a different
speech.

Having covered scores of market-moving speeches by the likes of
Greenspan, Paul Volcker, Henry Kaufman, and Al Woljinower, I know all
too well how these things happen.

Reporters, who are under tremendous pressure to beat the competition
(Dow Jones & Reuters actually employ spies who covertly monitor each
other and keep a running tally of "beats"), run to the phones the
moment they think they?ve heard or read a newsworthy nugget. Far
more often than not the early headlines set the tone for the day's
trading. And, since news is a dumb stepchild of price action, the
majority of subsequent commentary reflects those early headlines.

On Friday, the first headlines flagged Greenspan's disputation of the
level of corporate profits. Some stated outright that the Fed chairman
said they were too high. Witness this dispatch, which the Wall Street
Journal editors thought enough of to run in today's paper:

JACKSON HOLE, Wy. -- Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan
said Friday the U.S. central bank would intervene in financial markets to
correct a sharp and sudden increase in stock prices -- but he added
such increases seldom occur.

"Central banks cannot respond to gradually declining asset prices. We
don't respond to gradually increasing asset prices," he said. But if stock
prices made a sudden "180-degree turn" -- with the potential to create
liquidity problems -- the central bank would be bound to intervene, he
said.

"If such an event arises, the reality is we would respond," he said, but
such situations "almost never" arise.

A truly amazing example of lousy reporting, bad writing and absentee
editing, the above article begins with a questionable assertion
(Greenspan said the Fed would intervene to correct a sharp and
sudden increase in stock prices). That's quickly followed by a
contradiction within a contradiction (if stock prices made a "sudden
180-degree turn" they'd be falling, and "the potential to create liquidity
problems" is something the Fed would "respond to" by easing, which
isn't made clear.) The third sentence finally ends with a good reason
not to have cobbled this doggerel into a headline item to begin with, vis
a vis: "he said such situations "almost never" arise."

Overwhelmingly, the take on Greenspan's speech was that he thought
corporate earnings were overstated, saw the rise in stock prices as a
clear and present inflationary threat, and stood ready to tighten if stocks
vaulted higher.

But virtually the exact opposite is true. In reviewing the various factors
that can both overstate and understate earnings, Greenspan concluded
that "it is reasonable to surmise that undercapitalized expenses have
been rising sufficiently faster than reported earnings to have more than
offset the factors that have temporarily augmented reported earnings."

So the headline about overstated corporate profits that launched
thousands of sell orders was ass-backwards, and on a Friday in late
August the bond market overreacted. Both the statement accompanying
last week's 1/4 percentage-point hikes in the federal funds and
discount rates to 5.25% and 4.75%, and the recently released minutes
of the previous FOMC meeting indicate a shift in the zeitgeist at the Fed.

There's been a lot of bearish second thoughts on last Tuesday FOMC
announcement, but the words speak for themselves. The FOMC said
the moves "should markedly diminish the risk of rising inflation going
forward." And unlike the message delivered with the previous rate hike,
the FOMC omitted any pledge to stand ready to act again should any
signs of inflation emerge.

An equally important bit of news came from a summary of the June 30
FOMC meeting, which revealed a less hawkish if somewhat
contentious mood among the panel. Dallas Fed President Robert
McTeer even dissented, voting against a tightening move.

Copyright ¸1998 TLR. All rights reserved.



To: jmac who wrote (39612)9/2/1999 11:30:00 PM
From: FlameMe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
OT - I agree that there isn't a stock market "bubble". If you listen to the bears, they talk out of both sides of their mouth. On one hand, they say the market is wildly overvalued like never before. On other occasions they talk about the terrible advance/decline line and how most stocks have been in a bear market for two years. They note all the 52 week lows, etc. If all these stocks are going down, how can the market be a "bubble"? Whoever owns all these that are doing nothing certainly aren't feeling "the wealth effect".

It seems to me that the S&P has a high P/E because big growth stocks make up most of the weighting of the index and they are expensive. But, they are also growing earnings rapidly. There are other reasons why the S&P's P/E is high. They change the index all the time. It had some stodgy slow growers in the past. In addition, the '70s and '80s had much higher inflation than we have now, which leads to lower P/Es. And, if you listen to Greenspan, earnings are probably understated (opposite of what the press reports he says).

Anyway, even with all that, the thing is only up 7% for the year.

So, while there may be pockets of overvaluation, I doubt the entire market is wildly overvalued as they say.

Regards,
Ross