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To: Scumbria who wrote (70840)	9/2/1999 11:17:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1578266

Scumbria - <The important thing to remember is that the AMD technology is vastly inferior, as Yousef has been advising us.> If these posts have validity, there certainly may be some truth to that statement, only throw MOT into the equations too. Who's doing AMD's process development again? Message 11138133 <Also, .15um Leff in .18um groundrules?? Intel is doing better than that in .25um groundrules. And, only 450MHz now in .18um? That's pathetic. Maybe they mean (.18um Ldrawn / .15um Leffective) for the gate level only and the groundrule generation is actually .25um.> techstocks.com <I'm the source that says it's really a .25um GROUNDRULE process. (Moto would call it .22um by their definition). Right or wrong, I'm the source for most everything I say. But I did "cultivate" a source today who confirmed what I said. Seems the TRUE .18um GROUNDRULE process (they indeed have one) isn't due out for maybe 2-4 months. Apparently, Motorola (refering to the gate level only) is trying to dupe the naive into thinking this may be a .18um GROUNDRULE process by calling it a .18um micron (.15 micron L effective) copper HiPerMOS process.> Message 11135699 <So this is not a .18um process.(at least not in the BEOL) If not, then AMD will be scheduled to produce .18um Cu BEOL processors before their mentor Motorola does it. Ready - Fire - Aim THE WATSONYOUTH> I don't know for certaint yet if all of WY's assertions are correct, but if they are, they have very strong implications. PB

To: Scumbria who wrote (70840)	9/2/1999 11:22:00 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 1578266

Re: "The important thing to remember is that the AMD technology is vastly inferior, as Yousef has been advising us." How much in profits has AMD's process generated? There are several ways to measure superior and inferior. Intel defines "superior" in terms of performance and yields leading to profits. Remember a couple of days ago when AMD investors agreed that the goal was to "get Intel"? As profits have no meaning to AMD, in keeping with AMD mindset, to you superior can only be measured in terms of how much harm it does to Intel. EP