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To: Jeff R who wrote (70965)	9/3/1999 11:11:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1575047

Jeff - <Intel has lost the battle on performance for the foreseeable future. AMD is sandbagging with 650 MHz. They'll ship 800 MHz if they have too.> I say they'll announce an 800 if they have to. Why would they sandbag? This is extremely wishful thinking. Why isn't the market flooded with 650's then? <You have to also remember that AMD design does much more work per MHz than the aging Pentium III/II/Pro architecture.> I'll tell you what I've been telling everyone else that brings this up: You seriously underestimate Coppermine's ability to scale in raw MHz. But, feel free to believe what you want. PB

To: Jeff R who wrote (70965)	9/3/1999 11:17:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Respond to of 1575047

Jeff, AMD is sandbagging with 650 MHz. Well then, where are they? None at Fry's, Sunnyvale, which is a five minute walk from the Sunnyvale White House. AMD's goal is a shippable 1000 MHz processor once they have their Cu 0.18 process in production. Good goal. The Red Sox have a goal to win the World Series, too. Until Intel really gets Merced into production I don't see Intel really ever regaining the speed crown. After this week, that might be a lot sooner than anybody thought. But wait, I hear that K8 will also dramatically change the computing landscape. What is the K8? I think I read a quote one time from Don Alpert, Intel Architect for the Pentium that said Greg Favor, AMD Architect for the K6, was the "smartest person he'd every met." Now isn't that special.

To: Jeff R who wrote (70965)	9/4/1999 12:21:00 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575047

<AMD is sandbagging with 650 MHz. They'll ship 800 MHz if they have too. If AMD can produce 500 MHz K6-2 then they certainly can produce 800 MHz Althons. The Althon/K7 is is super pipelined design.> 1) If AMD is really sandbagging with the 650 MHz, we'd see them in much bigger quantities than we're seeing them right now. Why produce 500, 550, and 600 MHz speed grades if everything can be sold at 650 MHz, just enough to top Intel's fastest clock? (No, it's not an issue of demand, since Athlon supply is so low anyway.) 2) AMD is using the same manufacturing tricks on the 500 MHz K6-2 as they're using on the Athlon. That explains why the new K6-2 runs at 2.2 volts instead of 2.4 volts. In other words, it's a mid-life kicker. 3) Ooooh, Athlon is super-pipelined. In case you haven't heard already, so is Pentium III. And technically, so is Pentium II/Pro/Xeon, Celeron, Pentium, Pentium MMX, and K6-x. <But wait, I hear that K8 will also dramatically change the computing landscape.> I hear the same thing, too. I also hear that eating dog meat in Korea will improve my virility. Speaking of dog meat, I wonder what AMD has planned for the K9. Tenchusatsu