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To: MNI who wrote (1170)9/8/1999 1:06:00 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
I am sorry that you thought that I was cruel to mark, I just thought I was quoting something provocative....Anyway, the text quoted did not disparage sympathy, it praised the sympathy of the strong, and questioned the value of the "cult of sensitivity".....I am not endorsing Nietzsche down the line, but I think he has something there...As for the specific motivation of American soldiers, the overarching one was a sense of duty to one's country, coupled with a sense of solidarity with one's unit. Although compassion might enter into it, it is not the overriding force, because one has to feel an obligation to endure hardship and risk death to maintain one's place under fire.....



To: MNI who wrote (1170)9/8/1999 2:59:00 PM
From: MikeH  Respond to of 6418
 
<<what did e.g. American soldiers (I am talking of the individuals) motivate to fight the Germans? >>

**I'm weighing in real fast, because I wanna get my cr*p done at work today!**

It was neither honor nor compassion, but instead duty that persuaded men to fight in WWI and WWII.

Duty is an aspect that we feel is part of honor. You honor a duty to care for your mother. Or, your duty to serve your country is an honor.

Japan on the other hand may have been more of a case of upholding honor. We could have said,
"Fine, you blew up most of our surface fleet at Pearl Harbor. Let's have a treaty were you get control of Pearl Harbor, but we keep control of the rest of the Island."

This would have been the compassionate thing to do. After all, all the Japanese really wanted was to secure their supply lines so that they could conquer China. They just realized that we were not going to let them have naval power in the Pacific, nor invade our Chinease ally.

So, it became a matter of honor to the troops. They signed up to kill japs, because of ruthless slaughter of men at Pearl Harbor.