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To: truedog who wrote (1518)	9/9/1999 3:36:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 6418

These were common names. Don't necessarily refer to the same individuals. I listened to lecture series once that dealt with all this, but memory is faint.

To: truedog who wrote (1518)	9/9/1999 4:11:00 PM
From: Constant Reader	Respond to of 6418

According to the Catholic Church, Matthew wrote the first gospel. James the Lesser wrote the first catholic epistle. Ref:http://saints.catholic.org/

To: truedog who wrote (1518)	9/9/1999 4:27:00 PM
From: DJB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

TD, Let me get the books title and author and post it. I read it a while back. It does some analysis of the bible and gives time lines of when the various books of the new testament were written. I found it quite enlightening. <<the Bible is all you need>> I don't agree with this statement as I do not believe the bible can be taken literally. I believe you have to look at the works of the biblical scholars to get the true meaning of what is said. You must take into consideration the context of when it is written and then try to apply it to modern times. I confess that I am not a biblical scholar so I do try to rely on the experts. Of course when you read different scholars you get different points of view and different interpretations. That is what makes it so fascinating. Sometime we must discuss the story of sodom which some scholars say has nothing at all to do with homosexuality.

To: truedog who wrote (1518)	9/10/1999 12:58:00 AM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

Matthew maybe, but probably not John. Why argue about dates, folks, when all you have to do is run a quick net search? Gospel of Mark: written between 47 and 70 A.D., according to various scholarly estimates. Gospel of Luke: estimates range from late 50's to '90's. Gospel of Matthew: Conservative & liberal biblical scholars differ. Conservative Christians generally assert that the gospel was written by the disciple Matthew, perhaps 45 CE or earlier. The Scofield Bible states that the traditionally accepted date is 37 CE, to 4 to 7 years after Jesus' execution. 11,12,13,16 Liberals believe that the name of the author is unknown. It was written after the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple in 70 CE, because it describes the event in Matthew 24. Various authorities date Matthew about 85 CE. 6,7,10,19 religioustolerance.org Gospel of John. Traditionally, assumed to have been written by John the Disciple. But the style of thought of John's Gospel is very different from the Synoptic Gospels, and most scholars today believe it was written no earlier than 80 A.D., and probably by a group of different authors. FYI, here's a curious little collection of ruminations/quotations about the Gospel of John: home.fireplug.net