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To: Bilow who wrote (29084)9/9/1999 4:27:00 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625
 
Hi all; As long as I'm over at the Samsung website, I may as well post some links to some press releases. Now DDR doesn't get anywhere near the press that rambus, because no one is trying to get retail stock buyers to buy stock in a DDR technology play. So you will have to look around for the DDR PRs.

Significant Samsung press releases:
one-chip DDR/SDR design allows the new product to support both kPC100 and the new PC133 standard Single-Data-Rate SDRAMs as a fabrication manufacturing option
samsungelectronics.com
The above press release should give RMBS bulls some pause for thought. By the way, it is my opinion that Samsung is the best memory house in the world, for cutting edge, quality parts.

June 28, 1999 - Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. announced the successful development of the world's first 1Gb DDR SDRAM (Double Data Rate Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory) in a press conference with members of the Korean press held at its US-based production complex, Samsung Austin Semiconductor (SAS). The 1Gb DDR SDRAM, which can process data at speeds of 350-MHz, was developed by using the 0.13-micron design rule, an industry first.
samsungelectronics.com

Hey! Where are those 1Gb rambus memory chips??? If rambus is the technology of the future, how come the prototypes for the future are coming out in DDR? And why is Samsung preparing for a painless switchover to DDR, if it is not going to fly?

-- Carl



To: Bilow who wrote (29084)9/9/1999 7:08:00 PM
From: John Walliker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93625
 
Carl,


From the above, it is quite obvious that given two memory systems of the same size, the rambus memory system is going to use about twice as much power.


To make power consumption comparisons it is necessary to quote the supply voltage as well as the current. It is also necessary to know the duty cycle in each state. What you say is not obvious as the data is incomplete.
The figures you quote do not tally with the Samsung data sheet I downloaded a few days ago [rdram128dAbook.pdf].


RDRAM blocks consuming power @ Tcycle=2.5ns

Idd, PDN 3000uA max
Idd, NAP 4mA max
Idd, STBY 105mA max
Idd, ATTN 165mA max
Idd, ATTN-W 575/625mA max 16/18 bit
Idd, ATTN-R 490/520mA max 16/18 bit

STBY is the normal idle state of the RDRAM.
Note also that there are low-power self refresh versions available too.

Vdd = 2.5 V
Vcmos = 2.5V or 1.8V

The CMOS interface consumes power in all power states. b. This does not include the IOL sink current. The RDRAM dissipates IOLxVOL in each output driver when a logic one is driven.

Vol cmos = 0.3V @ 1 mA max

Not very much power.

John



To: Bilow who wrote (29084)9/9/1999 11:45:00 PM
From: grok  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 93625
 
Yes, Bilow, power is a big problem for Rambus. It just wipes them out in battery operated, handheld products like PDAs where they would otherwise have an advantage due to granularity. But can you imagine the gall of the person who posted this: "One-half the power of a comparable PC100 SDRAM system" on their website?
rambus.com