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To: grok who wrote (32)	9/11/1999 3:35:00 AM
From: Goutam	Respond to of 271

Hi, My apologies if this is already posted here. Found this on Aces Hardware - " RAMBUS 25% SLOWER than SDRAM!! johan Saturday, September 11, 1999 (07:10 AM West-Europa (zomertijd)) " aceshardware.com For an official benchmark of RAMBUS vs SDRAM, go to inqst.com According to Aces - "RAMBUS, a total disaster ? Be careful ! The higher the FSB (bus between chipset and CPU), the MORE bandwidth RAMBUS PC800 can deliver and PC SDRAM 100 can not. Limiting RAMBUS PC 800 to a 100 MHz bus is not really fair. The results at 133 MHz FSB are quite different from the ones at 100 MHz... You want prove ? Well, stay tuned because Ace's hardware is going to suprise you again in a few weeks." Does this mean that Athlon with its higher MHz FSB will benefit more from RAMBUS than Intel Pentium cpus? If true, Intel should design a chip set and mother board with RAMBUS interface for ATHLON cpus to keep RAMBUS from becoming a RAMBUST (just kidding.) Regards, Goutama

To: grok who wrote (32)	9/11/1999 3:04:00 PM
From: kash johal	Respond to of 271

KZ, Re: "Dell benchmarks and standby mode" You may be right. Its possible that in certain areas Rambus is great and in others it sucks. This whole situation is very wierd that we are at a brand new product generation ie 820/133FSB/DRDRAM and there is no real technical data. Regards, Kash

To: grok who wrote (32)	9/12/1999 2:10:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 271

KZ, <Try this on as an explanation for the Dell Bell benchmarks: drdrams enter power down mode when they are not used frequently. Bell's benchmarks seemed like all business type sw that would access memory pretty randomly. So imagine that various drdrams go into power down mode but then have a much increased latency when finally accessed. Any thoughts.> Interesting theory! Hard to believe it would degrade the performance so much though! This whole affair stinks to high heaven. The comparisons are nutty if you consider that CuMine-256 (not the CuMine-128) is expected to debut at 133MHz FSB. Why Intel/Dell presented that data (assuming they did) is beyond me. Hopefully, we will find some more useful answers by October. Chuck P.S.: I didn't realize there was another thread up and running full steam. I had the other one bookmarked and wondering why people who wanted a new thread are not showing up. Oh, well! P.P.S.: I am glad we have a more useful RMBS forum. Thanks to Kash for getting this going.