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To: E who wrote (1877)	9/12/1999 12:04:00 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 6418

But... such usurpation may be, I acknowledge, the shape of the future. It is certainly what is feared by all advocates of the firm separation of church and state. The most awful example of this, imo, happened in Ohio where a credit card fraud case (involving a pregnant college student) was reinterpreted by a pro-life judge. The judge decided to "lock her up and throw away the key" (even though cc fraud is a mild felony and her male assailants got off scot-free) as a way to force Ms Kawaguchi to give birth. Personally I think this kind of misabuse of the justice system is pretty easy to spot, and eventually will backfire. But in the meantime there is no justice at the hands of these extemists that feel their agendas supercede everything else. When Justice is Unjust In October 1998 Judge Patricia Cleary of Cleveland, Ohio sentenced Yuriko Kawaguchi, a student at the University of California's Berkeley campus, to six months in prison after she pleaded guilty to forgery in a credit-card scam. Before Kawaguchi was sentenced, officials in the County Jail knew she was pregnant but showed "deliberate indifference" to her pleas that she be allowed an abortion, said Linda Rocker, Kawaguchi's attorney. Judge Cleary said "it worked out swell" that the sentence thwarted an abortion. "She pretty much played God with my life," Kawaguchi said of the judge. The judge's complicity with prosecutors' efforts to prevent Kawaguchi's abortion was "absolutely reprehensible and should be condemned," said Joan Englund, legal director of the ACLU of Ohio and co-counsel on the case. "She committed an egregious abuse of power clearly designed to vindicate her own personal viewpoint." As of November, Kawaguchi had filed a lawsuit again Judge Cleary, claiming that her constitutional rights were violated. aclu.org

To: E who wrote (1877)	9/12/1999 1:03:00 AM
From: DJB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

<<If it does come, Christopher, you won't like it, and neither will Neocon, as it dawns on you the extent of what has become thinkable. It is already beginning to happen, with the "right to life" litmus test for judicial appointments>> This becomes more acute if the religious right can gain and maintain power through their candidates for a long period of time. Then the religious right will have only the judges with there point of view appointed to the courts. In effect you will not have a separation of church and state. The religious right has deep pockets so don't think it can't happen. Erase Hate, Dennis