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To: TigerPaw who wrote (149)	9/13/1999 5:57:00 PM
From: Canuck Dave	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Ahem... Can I throw in my two cents worth on the whole god thing? Ok... Suppose you were a supreme being. You could create anything, know the future, and what choices all objects animate and inanimate were going to make. All creatures would follow preordained paths. How boring. What would be the greatest thing you could create? I believe the answer is uncertainty. A universe NOT preordained and will truly free so that you, the supreme being, could enjoy the results of such freedom, and be, well, surprised. What bothers me about the Kansas thing is that it is a part of a larger world view, one of absolute, static values. Land and human minds are rigidly controlled, and experimentation in wealth distribution and human affairs is strongly discouraged. How boring. In "Report to Greco", Nikos Kazantzakis recounts the great Greek aphorism. "It is not enough to be, one must create." Sounds good to me. CD

To: TigerPaw who wrote (149)	9/13/1999 6:14:00 PM
From: Don Pueblo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

...recent discoveries in quantum mechanics shows that interactions at the smallest level are random, not just indeterminant. Uh...actually that's not quite fully correct. Sorry. I'll go now. Bye.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (149)	9/13/1999 6:14:00 PM
From: Null Dog Ago	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

You are just being egotistical now. What makes you think you could keep a supreme being guessing? You are just a common, everyday human being, you don't have god-like comprehension. therefore it makes no sense to you. It eludes my ability to fully comprehend, as I am no greater in metaphysical knowledge than the next guy. But, free will is the ability to make a choice. If a being knows what choice you will make in advance it doesn't mean that time is already plotted and your decisions are made for you, it just means that your decisions are known to this being. You're going on the idea that god must be able to "read" this event and therefore the timeline is already set. This is wrong. You are putting the argument in terms your human mind can comprehend, rather than realizing it is beyond your comprehension.