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To: Dayuhan who wrote (2607)9/16/1999 2:33:00 AM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
Steven- res- Do you believe that homosexuality is innate or acquired?

Doesn't really matter. The fact is it is dangerous and shouldn't be promoted to our children. AIDS kills, and I care that people die from a behavior which is preventable, especially the young.

Do you think that teaching children that gay people are not worse than other people is tantamount to "advertising for homosexuality"?

Define worse or better? It's simply more dangerous. Do you think that teaching children that drug users are not worse than other people is tantamount to "advertising for drugs"? Or should we teach acceptance and tolerance toward that as well to our children?

Of course. But when you see people f*cking like bunnyrabbits with no protection at all, it seems only common sense to slip them a rubber or two, with an admonition to be smart.

Do you see this Steven or is it really a "hasty generalization". I don't believe that most 3rd through 10th graders are engaged in sex like bunnyrabbits do you?

A lot of kids go into teenage times with very little discipline and very little parental attention. They are socially insecure and desperately looking for affection and human validation. Schools cannot alter this matrix by suddenly pulling abstinence out of a hat.

Ahhh, but you believe we can train them to use condoms? And how does legitimizing promiscuous behavior and pretending that condomes are infallible reduce the activity that is primarily responsible for these health hazards? Doesn't your approach imply acceptance of unhealthy lifestyles that produce irresponsible behavior? Additionally, what makes you think that promiscuous individuals are going to bother with condoms? In the past year alone there have been numerous newspaper stories pointing out that homosexuals and promiscuous teenagers are not moved by the scare stories on AIDS. What leads you to the assumption that starting tomorrow they will be?

How many teenaged girls have given in because they honestly believed it was the only way anybody would ever love them? Do we offer them condemnation or understanding?

As a parent, I believe that training for abstinence begins at infancy. What do we do when kids want what they can't have? Do we give in, do we smack them, or do we remove them from the scene, hold them while they cry, and explain as well as we can why we must do what we must do? If we take the third way, we train our kids to abstain. But kids who enter adolescence without that foundation are not going to be brought to abstinence by a teacher. And when th schools see themselves being inundated with kids that are not prepared, should they preach against the tide or hand out lifejackets?

"Give me a child until he is 7, and he is mine for life."


In other words, the basic assumption is they have no control over their instincts and are the same as animals. If this is true, perhaps you could explain to me why all the other animals don't need condoms? And why wait to teach abstinence when they are a teenager? I agree it's too late for some then.

Michael



To: Dayuhan who wrote (2607)9/16/1999 12:14:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
PS. I can't for the life of me imagine why anybody would want gays not to marry. Who are they hurting? Who cares?

I agree and the gays I know are in favor of gay marriage mostly for economic reasons. They want to be included on their partners medical insurance... stuff like that. Sounds pretty basic to me, I don't see how anyone can be against it. Its like me saying no one else should be able to die their hair blonde or something.