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To: jlallen who wrote (2817)9/17/1999 9:18:00 AM
From: Null Dog Ago  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
True, and just about all who were named saints died reaching out to help. Though I'm nondenominational, even I'm tired of this "religious zealotry" propaganda.



To: jlallen who wrote (2817)9/17/1999 9:55:00 AM
From: DJB  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 6418
 
<<The poisonous atmosphere which liberalism inspires toward organized religion and religious beliefs is far more dangerous than guns in this society>>

Give me a break. The evidence clearly shows that this is an isolated crack pot. If he had killed Jews or blacks would you be crying the same tune? This guy acted alone. Name one liberal group that condones violence against religions of any kind.

It amazes me how that conservatives on this thread were so anti hate crimes until this unfortunate incident. Now they are the persecuted ones. Well the following should cheer you up because your republican leader is clearly anti gay. Do you think his attitude might reinforce the beliefs of right wing hate groups(which actually exist)? Do you think these hate groups might take his stance as a license to get gays?

Associated Press, September 14, 1999
Bush Offers Anti-Gay Views
By MIKE GLOVER
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) ? Questioned by an anti-gay rights publication, Texas Gov. George W. Bush said Tuesday that he opposes gay marriages and that a court erred in striking a ban on gays in the Boy Scouts.
Publishers of the newsletter said Bush's comments were "a good start' but said they had more questions about the Republican presidential front-runner's position on gay rights.
Bill Horn is a leading anti-gay rights activist who publishes a newsletter called "Straight from the Heart.' He's been questioning presidential campaigns about their views on gay issues.
Pushed to detail the Texas governor's positions, the Bush campaign sent Horn a brief statement Tuesday.
"Governor Bush believes marriage is between a man and a woman and therefore does not believe in gay marriages,' the statement said. He also opposed adoption by gay couples because "he believes children ought to be adopted in families with a man and woman who are married.'
Bush told the newsletter that he believes the New Jersey Supreme Court "was wrong' when it struck down the Boy Scouts' ban on gays in the organization.
"He believes the Boy Scouts is a private organization and they should be able to set their own standards,' Bush's statement said.
"This is a good start,' said Horn. "There are a couple of other things we want answers on.'
Horn said he would press Bush to offer views on "the gay agenda in public education' and on domestic partner laws allowing benefits for partners in a gay relationship.
"My recommendation to him would be to provide those specific questions to us and we will provide answers to him,' said Bush spokesman Eric Woolson.
Horn said the questions had been posed to all the Republican presidential candidates, and only former cabinet officer Elizabeth Dole and Arizona Sen. John McCain had failed to respond.
The other candidates also opposed the gay rights initiatives, Horn noted.
Many of Bush's rivals argue the front-runner is vague on the issues, and ducks tough questions. Bush counters that he will flesh out a detailed agenda as the campaign unfolds, but will do it as his own pace.

Do you think I will vote for this guy?

Erasing hate should start at the top and this guy is not going to do it.

Dennis



To: jlallen who wrote (2817)9/17/1999 10:26:00 AM
From: C Kahn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
jlallen, with all due respect, wouldn't you say that this statement is quite strong?

But then again, I knew you'd see it that way. The poisonous atmosphere which liberalism inspires toward organized religion and religious beliefs is far more dangerous than guns in this society.

I realize that we all have different ways of communicating, but IMHO, this statement would not be helpful to a person who may be struggling to seek God. I mean no offense to you, this is just the way I see it.

C Kahn