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Politics : Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator from New York? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jlallen who wrote (1508)	9/21/1999 3:02:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3389

Yeah, I had forgotten about that! Geez.....

To: jlallen who wrote (1508)	9/30/1999 8:01:00 PM
From: Les H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3389

Is it art? Hillary Clinton dedicates new sculpture By Randall Palmer OTTAWA, Sept 30 (Reuters) - It may not be a religious painting smeared with elephant dung, but Canada's capital and even the sculptor were not sure what to make of a new oeuvre that Hillary Rodham Clinton dedicated on Thursday. The U.S. first lady, fresh from a dispute in New York over a dung-smeared painting of the Virgin Mary, cut the ribbon on a bronze-and-steel sculpture -- gangly or soaring depending on your perspective -- at the new $54 million U.S. embassy. It's not controversial in the sense of whether governments should fund works that offend religious groups, but it has left some in Ottawa scratching their heads and even American sculptor Joel Shapiro somewhat at a loss for words. ``I don't think it has a simple story line. I think it's rooted in abstraction,' he told Mrs. Clinton and 80 assembled guests as he described optimism and ``possibility'. ``What else can I say?' he mumbled. ``It's very difficult to talk about abstractions in language, because if you could you would not do it.' To which the first lady, in town for a summit of first ladies of the Americas, replied: ``It filled in a lot of space in our heads about how we think about and understand a great piece of abstract sculpture.' Mrs. Clinton is in a all-but-official race for the U.S. Senate with Republican New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, who has threatened to cut off city funding from the Brooklyn Museum of Art over the portrait of Mary that is to be displayed soon. He said that if he could create such a painting, it was not art, and this particular portrait was offensive. Mrs. Clinton reacted this week that while the painting was objectionable she thought Giuliani's response was ``very wrong.' On Thursday outside the new steel-and-glass embassy, the first lady was asked what Giuliani might think of the new sculpture, named ``Conjunction' -- which Ottawa Citizen columnist Paul Gessell described as ``a tangle of limbs.' She merely smiled in the harsh Canadian autumn wind, stroking the sculpture admiringly and leaving U.S. Ambassador Gordon Giffin to answer: ``He'd be proud of the embassy.'