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To: Greg Johnson who wrote (28221)9/23/1999 2:18:00 AM
From: Scott C. Lemon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42771
 
Hello Greg!

> OK, Scott, you're really pushing my buttons now!

Oh no ... I knew that a Java developer would show up sooner or later! And it had to be a good one at that! ;-)

> Granted, it's not up to native speed (yet), it's been my experience
> that behind every "painfully slow" exhibition of Java lies a
> "painfully poor" design....or lack thereof.

;-)

I guess that my main issue is with the thought that all of our daily productivity apps could be rewritten in Java. Yes, I know that Corel has done some demos, etc. But I have yet to see an E-Mail client, Office Suite, or even the HotJava browser run "fast" ... acceptable? Yes! But sometimes really (painfully?) slow? Yeah ... sometimes.

I agree that poor design can even further hurt performance ... and I do know that they (Sun/JavaSoft) are trying to improve this ... but it's not quite there yet ...

> Slower than native? Yes.
> Painfully slow? Take a look at the design.

Ok ... point taken ... ;-)

I'll have to reinstall that HotJava browser and see how it's doing! ;-)

> BTW, we sure miss you around here....your criticisms, although
> sometimes stinging, were actually good for us....

;-) ... and I can't remember the criticism directed at *your* work ... you guys were cranking!

Now please get back to work and do your usual magic ... I want to see this stock price back up where it needs to be ... and I want to see you and the team deliver like I know you can!

Scott C. Lemon



To: Greg Johnson who wrote (28221)9/23/1999 10:05:00 AM
From: Paul Fiondella  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42771
 
Is this the interpreted vs compiled BASIC debate deja vu?

My experience with programming, which goes back 27 years, is that a structured programming approach to computer program design can optimize any code to the point where the constraints are the hardware not the software.

It is my impression that Novell uses JAVA as the calling language in its Zen line of products to the more powerful and efficient NLM's. Could someone with better knowledge define the situation.